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More than once I've seen the question passing by , is it possible to connect two dishes together to get more signal from one satellite .
I know to connect two out-ports from two lnb's is almost impossible for amateurs like us by the uneven synchronisation of the LOF's , but maybe , if you can connect the wave guides together , it might be work .
So two weeks ago I started with 2 Triax TDS64 dishes , set to zero elevation .
For that I have to cut a part of the poleclamp .
Those dishes have a offset of 26º
Than attached them opposit at a tube to find the angle between the feedhorns with enough room for 2 more feedarms .
Now I could make the quatro-feed and 4 long neck feedhorns .
The shape of the feedhorns are not all the same , could be a issiue to solve later .
To let look it like a four leaf clover , I made a cross pole at a temporary stand with a fine elevation adjuster , later I noticed thats a bad idea since each dish must be optimised single .
Thats easier to do when they are horizontal or vertical .
Pointed the set to Astra 19.2º E and found a high signal ( S 60% ) at 10744 H but with bad quality ( 28% ) , but it still gives me a picture .
I do have a Clarketech Combo satmeter , that connected to my 1.2 M Fibo gregorian dish , shows 55% S on that TP with a Q of 54%
As you can see there where bad weather conditions and I run out of time that day no chance to tweak each dish . There I stopped .
To set each dish to the optimum , I gonna turn the cross to upright .
When each dish is proper set I want to remove the feedarms and replace them for a tube from the centre off the cross to the centre bolt at the quatro feed .
Today I finished some changes , made a 25 mm diameter bar through the centre of the cross fitting in a gearbox .
The gearbox is on top of the modded poleclamp and can be turned by a hand to turn each dish on top .
Also had to make a new elevation fine adjuster .
Now the quattro-feed is also connected by a M10 threaded rod to the top of the 25 mm bar .
If I find the time tomorrow I will attach the other dishes and test again .
I know to connect two out-ports from two lnb's is almost impossible for amateurs like us by the uneven synchronisation of the LOF's , but maybe , if you can connect the wave guides together , it might be work .
So two weeks ago I started with 2 Triax TDS64 dishes , set to zero elevation .
For that I have to cut a part of the poleclamp .
Those dishes have a offset of 26º
Than attached them opposit at a tube to find the angle between the feedhorns with enough room for 2 more feedarms .
Now I could make the quatro-feed and 4 long neck feedhorns .
The shape of the feedhorns are not all the same , could be a issiue to solve later .
To let look it like a four leaf clover , I made a cross pole at a temporary stand with a fine elevation adjuster , later I noticed thats a bad idea since each dish must be optimised single .
Thats easier to do when they are horizontal or vertical .
Pointed the set to Astra 19.2º E and found a high signal ( S 60% ) at 10744 H but with bad quality ( 28% ) , but it still gives me a picture .
I do have a Clarketech Combo satmeter , that connected to my 1.2 M Fibo gregorian dish , shows 55% S on that TP with a Q of 54%
As you can see there where bad weather conditions and I run out of time that day no chance to tweak each dish . There I stopped .
To set each dish to the optimum , I gonna turn the cross to upright .
When each dish is proper set I want to remove the feedarms and replace them for a tube from the centre off the cross to the centre bolt at the quatro feed .
Today I finished some changes , made a 25 mm diameter bar through the centre of the cross fitting in a gearbox .
The gearbox is on top of the modded poleclamp and can be turned by a hand to turn each dish on top .
Also had to make a new elevation fine adjuster .
Now the quattro-feed is also connected by a M10 threaded rod to the top of the 25 mm bar .
If I find the time tomorrow I will attach the other dishes and test again .
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Figuring out the phasing system for this project begets an excedrin headache... at least for me. One millimeter difference on reflector distance to the feedhorn can displace 2-3dB of signal. Times that by 4 for the different reflectors, and the feedhorn to waveguide interface...
Basically by adding another 3 reflectors you are multiplying the reflector surface area, and offset dishes are basically a portion of a prime focus reflector parabola. I would think using one feedhorn pointing at the center would likely more than compensate for feed/waveguide losses. Just need to adjust for focal depth of the assembly, which would be 50% of what one dish would represent if you calculate the total width and depth of the assembly. Using a prime focus scaler would help too.
Adding mesh/screen behind the assembly would help block ground/terrestrial interference seeping in between the "pedals" and help improve S/N as well.
Just my 1 1/2 cents. (definately not worth 2 cents).
Basically by adding another 3 reflectors you are multiplying the reflector surface area, and offset dishes are basically a portion of a prime focus reflector parabola. I would think using one feedhorn pointing at the center would likely more than compensate for feed/waveguide losses. Just need to adjust for focal depth of the assembly, which would be 50% of what one dish would represent if you calculate the total width and depth of the assembly. Using a prime focus scaler would help too.
Adding mesh/screen behind the assembly would help block ground/terrestrial interference seeping in between the "pedals" and help improve S/N as well.
Just my 1 1/2 cents. (definately not worth 2 cents).
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Apple TV 4K. New Siri AI and hands-free control. Stunning picture and immersive HomePod surround sound. Works with your Apple and smart home devices.
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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College Football Playoff nears agreement on 24-team expansion that could end title games
The College Football Playoff field is about to get much more crowded as the conferences near a deal to double the size of the field to 24 teams starting next year
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