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N6ATF

Last reply Sep 18, 2017 · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

[CNX] Noob with a Duo, 32"w oval DirecTV dish, MK1-PLL, RG6

Is there absolutely anything FTA I can receive on the Duo pointing out my fiberglass screened (RF transparent?) south-facing open window, or...?

For days I've been working on cleaning the bird poop, cobwebs, leaves out of the (free) dish, and trying to figure out how to set the remoteless Duo with Peel Remote on my tablet (which limits the amount of custom buttons I can set - I have 0 through 9 & the select button, using the dropdown+test to send other Duo-specific IR codes), and using the Duo's front panel for Menu, OK, up down left right). I just found the manual today despite it being paywalled or fake posted everywhere but here, but it isn't much help, still.

All I see on the ~11760-12900 blind scan (2 mhz step, all polarizations, all symbol rates) is the S going from 80-95% & the Q consistently showing 0. Would the signal go to 100% & the Q go anywhere but 0 if I took the screen off & let the bugs in, or is the Duo incapable of scanning for anything modern near where the dish is pointed? Someone had suggested laying the dish on its back pointed skyward, and getting signal, but so much of the FTA discussions are years old.

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Titanium

Sep 14, 2017

Welcome to Satellite Guys! The Duo can receive FTA DVBS MPEG2. Most channels on 97w are still transmitted in this format. Even though many threads are several years old, the aiming and scanning process remains the same.

The dish aiming is highly critical along with the correct LNBF skew (rotation) and the receiver must be set to an active transponder for the satellite that you are trying to find. It is very important to mount the dish on a solid pole that is plumb and level. This will simplify the aiming procedure!

Use a dish aiming program like Dishpointer to find the compass reading, elevation and LNBF skew for 97w - Galaxy 19. Aim the dish in this direction and set the LNBF skew and elevation angle. This is assuming that the new LNBF has been mounted so the feedhorn is in the exact position (height, distance from the reflector and angle) matching the removed Directv feedhorn. Remember that the Slimline dish is an offset type design and is actually looking at a point in the sky that is approximately 26 degrees higher than the face of the dish is aimed. Make sure there is nothing blocking this (roof overhang, branches, etc.).

Look at Sathint.com and find an active transponder for 97w -G19 KU band. I suggest using TP frequency 12152 Horizontal, SR 20000. On the DUO Install menu, select the KU band satellite located at 97w (the name is not important as it likely has changed). Set the transponder to the above suggestion, select LNB type to 10750, LNB Power to ON.

With the TV screen next to the dish, SLOWLY pan the dish 20 degrees on either side of the compass reading for 97w satellite while watching the Signal Quality Meter. Once the signal is found, the Signal Quality reading will increase. The meter reading may momentarily jump as the signal is being located, but if it doesn't stabilize, it is likely a false reading.

If no Signal Quality reading is noted, increase or decrease the dish elevation setting in one degree increments and SLOWLY sweep the section of sky again. Repeat until the satellite Signal Quality reading is locked and optimized.

Once the satellite is found, perform a Blind Scan for ALL channel types. You should scan in over 200 free channels on this satellite.

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N6ATF

Sep 16, 2017

(20.75 * 20.75 * 20.75) / (16 * 1.4375 * 20)
was converted by DuckDuckGo to
((20.75 * 20.75) * 20.75) / ((16 * 1.4375) * 20)
=19.42211277174 or 19 7/16

Taped 19 7/16 to the center indent of the LNB & 0 on the dish after having to push the universal bracket angle forward a bit to get the tape 0 to touch. There was this little abrasion in the paint (at 11.5 inches out of 22" on vertical axis & 16" out of 32" of horizontal axis, I only just measured now) I had noticed while cleaning the dish days ago, and it turns out that's probably what was previously marked as the focal point (By the DirecTV installer? By the dish manufacturer? By the last person to use a universal LNB clamp?), as it's where my tape 0 ended up, as close as a straight line I could get from the LNB without clamping in a boresighter or laser pointer (mine got ruined by battery leak).

Still wondering: a 21V power inserter is listed as required for the future SDR. Did I need it for FTA too? 13/18V 500mA max is what the Duo supplies.

danristheman

Sep 16, 2017

N6ATF, I used slimline dish before as my first dish that receive FTA on. I used a DN superdish lnb match up perfect. I just matched up the angle of the slimline lnb to the superdish lnb and kept the dish level. When using an FTA lnb you would need to skew it to match the correct satellite location. Jholt this one is for you also ---> Redirect Notice thought this might help you guys out.

jholt5638

Sep 16, 2017

danristheman said:
N6ATF, I used slimline dish before as my first dish that receive FTA on. I used a DN superdish lnb match up perfect. I just matched up the angle of the slimline lnb to the superdish lnb and kept the dish level. When using an FTA lnb you would need to skew it to match the correct satellite location. Jholt this one is for you also ---> Redirect Notice thought this might help you guys out.

Always looking for to get the extra little bit. I've found except for NBC on 103W skew has been pretty forgiving. I got my second Slimline mounted to the seat of a old wooden chair. Can't wait my replacement receiver arrives today.

Jim S.

Sep 16, 2017

N6ATF said:
Still wondering: a 21V power inserter is listed as required for the future SDR. Did I need it for FTA too? 13/18V 500mA max is what the Duo supplies.

What SDR are you going to use and what are you going to do with it? I'm confused about the whole 21V thing... The LNBF switches between horizontal and vertical depending on whether it's getting 13V or 18V. I don't remember which is which, but if you give it 21V, assuming that it can even handle that, it's going to only pick up whichever polarity is selected by 18V.

N6ATF

Sep 17, 2017

Its kinda secret squirrel, but I may have given enough away already for some to figure out what it is.

Titanium said:
The Duo can receive FTA DVBS MPEG2.

Is there any reason why a CNX Duo with perfectly-aimed dish & LNB outside wouldn't be able to receive this, the only MP2 channel on G18?

SatPhreak

Sep 18, 2017

TVW is now at 12045/V/1680 on 123w.

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21 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Tech News Weekly 441

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Home Theater Audio: JBL SCL-6 Speaker Custom Build! #shorts

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teachtom

22 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 33 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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TRG

Monday at 3:34 PM

Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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dfergie

Monday at 4:27 PM

TRG said:
Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life.

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Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.

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TRG

Monday at 4:50 PM

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.

I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.

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TRG

Yesterday at 4:11 PM

Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.

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N5XZS

Last reply 45 minutes ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 1:35 AM

According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

FCCInfo Results

FCC Info is a Radio and Television Station Search Engine provided by Cavell, Mertz & Associates, Inc.

www.fccinfo.com

primestar31

45 minutes ago

comfortably_numb said:
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

FCCInfo Results

FCC Info is a Radio and Television Station Search Engine provided by Cavell, Mertz & Associates, Inc.

www.fccinfo.com

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:28 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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zippyfrog

Today at 11:29 AM

However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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telstar_1

Today at 11:45 AM

Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

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zippyfrog

Today at 12:34 PM

telstar_1 said:
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees

Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:11 PM

These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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Bruce

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:16 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Satellite now under 5 Million subscribers/Sling under 2 Million.

With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

DISH & Sling TV Lost Over 366,000 TV Subscribers In Just 3 Months | Cord Cutters News

EchoStar Corporation, the owner of the DISH Network satellite television service and the Sling TV streaming platform, continued to experience steep declines in its pay-television customer base during the first three months of 2026. The company reported a net loss of approximately 366,000 pay-TV...

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fmj77

May 11, 2026

I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.

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Bruce

May 11, 2026

fmj77 said:
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.

Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.

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Yespage

May 18, 2026

$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.

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telstar_1

Jun 2, 2026

I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?

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tsunami2311

Friday at 11:03 PM

Yespage said:
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.

1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...

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mwdxer1

Saturday at 3:08 AM

Bruce said:
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.

I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.

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tanman

Sunday at 12:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?

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nelson61

Monday at 8:20 PM

A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more

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MikeD-C05

Today at 1:16 PM

nelson61 said:
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more

In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.

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lordodogg

Last reply Today at 12:54 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HR44 rebooted overnight?

Hello again, haven't posted here in a while.

This morning, around 6:30am, I woke up and found the front panel lights on my HR44 on (I leave it off all the time as it is co-located with one of my Geminis).

Immediately thinking that either a reboot or power outage occurred, I checked the software version, and found that it's still the same release that was sent out last month.

I then ruled out a power outage by checking the clocks on my appliances and seeing that they're still correct (they reset when there's an outage, somewhat similar to the "blinking 12" on VCRs).

I then confirmed a reboot by checking the Upcoming Recordings (fka To-Do List) and seeing that the number was much lower than before (it always resets after a reboot).

I am definitely guessing what happened (and it may very well be actually what happened) is that the "Reset Required" prompt may have come up sometime overnight, and it eventually timed out and rebooted automatically. IIRC that prompt comes up when new software "plugins" have to be installed.

Would like to hear your thoughts, especially since I probably haven't talked to some of you reading this in a while (was a former CE member, left almost a year ago).

Thank you all in advance!

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Tom Speer

May 20, 2026

My HR54 blue light is on this morning. I think you ae right about the plugins. They are tweaking things in the customer National release. What version does your HR44 Genie have now? I think you are probably on the same varsion as the CE group today.

lordodogg

May 20, 2026

I believe mine says 0x1D7F

Tom Speer

May 20, 2026

That is what I have.

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lordodogg

Today at 12:54 PM

Happened again today & have new software, 0x1d88

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