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Since this is about their 12 foot dish, I decided to make a new thread for it apart from the 10ft. thread.
I bought the 12 foot dish, I ordered it May 31 (or June 1st) after waiting for them to "get them in stock", and it took a month and a half or more to receive it. They kept telling me it was shipped, then it will be shipped and shipped in a few days and then one day they gave me an actual link to track the shipment. I had to open a complaint through paypal to start addressing the issue as I had prepaid for it.
Meanwhile this customer was asking where there dish was, getting all bent out of shape that I didn't have it. But then once I got it, I had to wait on them to allow me to install it. They were waiting for the station to become available. Last week I went down to install it. (The week before I went down to plant the pole.)
Yeah, this dish doesn't have instructions, and what I saw online seemed a little ridiculous, and I did it the way I have always done it- on the ground. Actually, some against a fence. Once you put the bolts on, hold your flat edges level and snug them up, but not too tight. Do the tip, then work out to the edge, keeping the flat edges level with each other. First I did sets of twos, then fours (to make two halves), then the two halves last (on the ground).
It seemed to take me longer than I expected and I didn't finish. I had to make another trip.
One issue I still had to work out is the focal distance. It calls for 51" on the paper they give you, using the 63" rods. It says to use the holes 20 inches from the rim. However the scaler measured 48 inches, leaving me short by 5 1/4". So in my efforts, I had to do the old formula of verifying it is supposed to be 51" and then figure out where to drill some new holes. I'm horrible at math but did a half-brain calculation they will be at 26.2" based on the other sizes and numbers given.
I had searched Google over and over looking for someone who had this issue to no avail. Seems this place had the most recent posts, so I thought I'd come in to say "Hi" and add my two cents. I couldn't remember my login here from years ago, so I just signed up again. I didn't take pics, but did for the final return.
Here is my update...
The pipe sleeve part of the mount is very poor.
Now about the focal length.
The Tec2000 12 foot dish came with 63" poles that you have to bend for yourself. I used a feedhorn scaler ring to do mine. One end has two holes to give you some adjustment.. One of the rods wasn't set in the press correctly and it wasn't centered on the pole, but I made it work. (Not pictured.) I bolted the inner hole to the feed and bent it to a 45 degree angle (guesstamate).
The single page of information stated that the 12ft dish has 63" poles, and to bolt them onto the panels in the pre-drilled holes at 20 inches in. (You have to re-drill through the mesh.) Then it gave a focal distance of 51 inches. Well, using what they give you, the focal distance to the scaler was 48 inches... a whole 5 inches short.
I verified the focal distance by using a conversion of inches to centimeters, ran the string across the dish to measure depth and found this handy tool to do the math right here.
(Yes, it's 51 inches.)
I used some wire to tie the rods down to the mesh close to the ribs and adjusted until I got where I got to where I wanted it. I did two sets of holes (JIC), one at 23 3/4" and one at 24". For me, it turned out that the 24" holes gave me the 51" focal length I needed.
(Yeah, I spelled rivets wrong.)
Since this is a stationary set-up, I didn't need to track the belt, so I do not have anything to comment about how it "drove". It did seem to swing well, but I had very little declination to worry about. I did still have to bend the 90 degree plate for what little declination I did have. (So prepare to bend it when you put one together.)
The panels seems okay with some "not perfect" factory riveting making the mesh bow some in places, that I tried to flatten without getting all gung-ho about it. There were lots of rubbed areas and some bent corners. It surely isn't the really nice build that Unimesh used to do. (I miss them.)
The mount came packed full of Styrofoam peanuts. What a pain in the butt to keep them from flying everywhere when unpacking the mount. They didn't stop one of the ring support struts from bending in a tad. Measure the distance between opposite struts to make sure they are equal before bolting down the reflector. I can't say I'm impressed with the support bar assembly, but it's better than nothing.
And here is the final pic.
If you are curious, I wasn't using both polarities on the satellite, so I popped on a cheap LNB to act as a hole cover on the feed.
Final assessment: YOU WILL NEED TO BUILD YOUR OWN PIPE MOUNT!
I have plans to re-do the pipe mount using quarter inch steel.
I do not feel this mount will last in big winds and I have to address this very soon. I will post a pic of my final product when it happens.
I hope this helps anyone getting the Tek2000 12ft dish.
I bought the 12 foot dish, I ordered it May 31 (or June 1st) after waiting for them to "get them in stock", and it took a month and a half or more to receive it. They kept telling me it was shipped, then it will be shipped and shipped in a few days and then one day they gave me an actual link to track the shipment. I had to open a complaint through paypal to start addressing the issue as I had prepaid for it.
Meanwhile this customer was asking where there dish was, getting all bent out of shape that I didn't have it. But then once I got it, I had to wait on them to allow me to install it. They were waiting for the station to become available. Last week I went down to install it. (The week before I went down to plant the pole.)
Yeah, this dish doesn't have instructions, and what I saw online seemed a little ridiculous, and I did it the way I have always done it- on the ground. Actually, some against a fence. Once you put the bolts on, hold your flat edges level and snug them up, but not too tight. Do the tip, then work out to the edge, keeping the flat edges level with each other. First I did sets of twos, then fours (to make two halves), then the two halves last (on the ground).
It seemed to take me longer than I expected and I didn't finish. I had to make another trip.
One issue I still had to work out is the focal distance. It calls for 51" on the paper they give you, using the 63" rods. It says to use the holes 20 inches from the rim. However the scaler measured 48 inches, leaving me short by 5 1/4". So in my efforts, I had to do the old formula of verifying it is supposed to be 51" and then figure out where to drill some new holes. I'm horrible at math but did a half-brain calculation they will be at 26.2" based on the other sizes and numbers given.
I had searched Google over and over looking for someone who had this issue to no avail. Seems this place had the most recent posts, so I thought I'd come in to say "Hi" and add my two cents. I couldn't remember my login here from years ago, so I just signed up again. I didn't take pics, but did for the final return.
Here is my update...
The pipe sleeve part of the mount is very poor.
Now about the focal length.
The Tec2000 12 foot dish came with 63" poles that you have to bend for yourself. I used a feedhorn scaler ring to do mine. One end has two holes to give you some adjustment.. One of the rods wasn't set in the press correctly and it wasn't centered on the pole, but I made it work. (Not pictured.) I bolted the inner hole to the feed and bent it to a 45 degree angle (guesstamate).
The single page of information stated that the 12ft dish has 63" poles, and to bolt them onto the panels in the pre-drilled holes at 20 inches in. (You have to re-drill through the mesh.) Then it gave a focal distance of 51 inches. Well, using what they give you, the focal distance to the scaler was 48 inches... a whole 5 inches short.
I verified the focal distance by using a conversion of inches to centimeters, ran the string across the dish to measure depth and found this handy tool to do the math right here.
(Yes, it's 51 inches.)
I used some wire to tie the rods down to the mesh close to the ribs and adjusted until I got where I got to where I wanted it. I did two sets of holes (JIC), one at 23 3/4" and one at 24". For me, it turned out that the 24" holes gave me the 51" focal length I needed.
(Yeah, I spelled rivets wrong.)
Since this is a stationary set-up, I didn't need to track the belt, so I do not have anything to comment about how it "drove". It did seem to swing well, but I had very little declination to worry about. I did still have to bend the 90 degree plate for what little declination I did have. (So prepare to bend it when you put one together.)
The panels seems okay with some "not perfect" factory riveting making the mesh bow some in places, that I tried to flatten without getting all gung-ho about it. There were lots of rubbed areas and some bent corners. It surely isn't the really nice build that Unimesh used to do. (I miss them.)
The mount came packed full of Styrofoam peanuts. What a pain in the butt to keep them from flying everywhere when unpacking the mount. They didn't stop one of the ring support struts from bending in a tad. Measure the distance between opposite struts to make sure they are equal before bolting down the reflector. I can't say I'm impressed with the support bar assembly, but it's better than nothing.
And here is the final pic.
If you are curious, I wasn't using both polarities on the satellite, so I popped on a cheap LNB to act as a hole cover on the feed.
Final assessment: YOU WILL NEED TO BUILD YOUR OWN PIPE MOUNT!
I have plans to re-do the pipe mount using quarter inch steel.
I do not feel this mount will last in big winds and I have to address this very soon. I will post a pic of my final product when it happens.
I hope this helps anyone getting the Tek2000 12ft dish.
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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.
It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.
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The 'get after it media' stations
www.getafteritmedia.com
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Get After It Media
www.getafteritmedia.com
Thanks Mr Tony, Hopefully no duplicates and put on like Revin, Karate movies.
It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.
It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.
Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...
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I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers
) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.
Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers
Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
Gen V was cancelled already. The story of The Boys is over, it's on to the prequel now.
All that buildup in their series and they were called useless, retconned and sidelined in the finale.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.
I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow.
Tapatalk has been removed.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along.
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
See also
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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