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HipKat
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Last reply · posted in General Home Theater Equipment
So a customer of mine just gave me a ton of Audio equipment and frankly, I have no clue how to connect all this stuff - well ,the receiver, amps, etc. Obviously I can connect an CD Changer lol.
It was all setup in a media room and was there when he bought the house in 1991. He's never used it.

Here's the list:

Luxman DC 114 CD Changer

Sherwood AM-7040 Power Amp

Sonance Sonamp 260 Amp

Sonance Sonamp 360 Amp

(3) Luxman R-114 Receivers

Sherwood EQ-1330 Equalizer

Panasonic PV 8450 VCR

Pioneer CT M6R Cassette Deck

Surround Sound, Inc System 3000 Surround Sound Decoder

I want to set it up so I have music in my garage an outdoor patio, but like i said, I have no clue how to connect the Receiver, Amps, SSD, and which speaker outs to use.

If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'll take pics of the back panels
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harshness
I have to say that I don't understand your boggle. These pieces are mostly straightforward and reasonably well labeled.

The trick today is finding analog audio sources. If the impedance of the speaker output isn't labeled, assume 4-8 ohms.

Unless you have a special application, I'd probably stay away from the Sonance VCA 1 as it requires considerable thought, begs for some obscure speaker configurations and is perhaps the oldest piece here at 30 years.

Don't be put off by the 47 ohm legends on the RCA inputs as that's standard for line level analog audio.

The "signal processor" ins and outs on the Luxman receivers are for adding an analog equalizer or effects processor to the system. They are very similar to the pre-out and main-in connections but apply to all inputs.
HipKat
I have to say that I don't understand your boggle. These pieces are mostly straightforward and reasonably well labeled.

The trick today is finding analog audio sources. If the impedance of the speaker output isn't labeled, assume 4-8 ohms.

Unless you have a special application, I'd probably stay away from the Sonance VCA 1 as it requires considerable thought, begs for some obscure speaker configurations and is perhaps the oldest piece here at 30 years.

Don't be put off by the 47 ohm legends on the RCA inputs as that's standard for line level analog audio.

The "signal processor" ins and outs on the Luxman receivers are for adding an analog equalizer or effects processor to the system. They are very similar to the pre-out and main-in connections but apply to all inputs.
I guess my biggest concerns are one of or more of the amps and the SS Decoder. Components, like CD players, Equalizers, I get that, did many of them back in the day, but I never played with amps before
harshness
I guess my biggest concerns are one of or more of the amps and the SS Decoder.
There's no magic in amplifiers (other than getting them to turn on an off). They take a line level signal in and pump out speaker level. The only real design work involved is making sure the speaker impedance matches the output impedance.

Vintage Surround Sound decoders aren't of much use since Dolby Digital is what most all content is going to be encoded today. Vintage decoders typically dwell in the left, center and right channel domain and depend on an analog multiplexing scheme that is long gone. Some of the fancier ones offered simulated "surround" but it was all based on analog schemes.
HipKat
There's no magic in amplifiers (other than getting them to turn on an off). They take a line level signal in and pump out speaker level. The only real design work involved is making sure the speaker impedance matches the output impedance.

Vintage Surround Sound decoders aren't of much use since Dolby Digital is what most all content is going to be encoded today. Vintage decoders typically dwell in the left, center and right channel domain and depend on an analog multiplexing scheme that is long gone. Some of the fancier ones offered simulated "surround" but it was all based on analog schemes.
Knowing this stuff is from like 1990, I'm thinking i can live without the SS Decoder.

So I get the line level in and out, but not sure where those lines are coming from on the receiver, or is it pre-out to line in and line out to main in? And then connect the speakers to the amp instead of or with the Receiver speaker connectors?
harshness
So I get the line level in and out, but not sure where those lines are coming from on the receiver, or is it pre-out to line in and line out to main in? And then connect the speakers to the amp instead of or with the Receiver speaker connectors?
Those aren't anything you need to concern yourself with. Speakers should be connected to the binding posts (I use banana plugs). You can choose whatever input you want other than "PHONO". If you do need to use that input (because you have so many analog sources), make sure you slide the switch to AUX. PHONO inputs often have an amplifier on them so that they can handle the lower voltages of turntable cartridges.

As I said above, the pre-out and main in are more or less the same as the Signal Processor in and out. Unless you have an equalizer or an effects processor, leave them alone.

Analog is like plumbing or DC circuits. Its mostly either line level or speaker level and as long as you don't try to cross them up, you're golden.

Finally, unlike RF, you do NOT need to terminate unused connectors.
HipKat
Those aren't anything you need to concern yourself with. Speakers should be connected to the binding posts (I use banana plugs). You can choose whatever input you want other than "PHONO". If you do need to use that input (because you have so many analog sources), make sure you slide the switch to AUX. PHONO inputs often have an amplifier on them so that they can handle the lower voltages of turntable cartridges.

As I said above, the pre-out and main in are more or less the same as the Signal Processor in and out. Unless you have an equalizer or an effects processor, leave them alone.

Analog is like plumbing or DC circuits. Its mostly either line level or speaker level and as long as you don't try to cross them up, you're golden.

Finally, unlike RF, you do NOT need to terminate unused connectors.
No, no phono.... yet lol. I have an EQ, but wasn't sure if I'd use it or not. And sorry if I sound completely naive, but are you saying to connect an amp to a component input?? Can't be right.

Let me try and clarify. I know how to hook up a receiver, speakers, components, etc. It's primarily the amps I'm confused about. I only need one, obviously and the big Sherwood is the one I most interested in adding
waylew
From the rcv,PRE OUT to input on the amp,not sure on variable or direct,just try em both.Just make sure the volume is turned all the way down when you first power up,or you may be in for a LOUD surprise.:biggrin
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harshness
There needs to be some sort of pre-amp between any source and the amplifier to give you control over line levels (and ultimately over volume). That could be the pre-out from the Luxman, a mixer with RCA jacks or a conventional preamp.

As I said before, getting the amps to turn on and off is often the trick -- especially if you use very efficient speakers -- as a certain "volume" level (voltage) from the preamp is required to "wake" the amps and keep them awake.

These modular systems can be a whole lot of work (which is why fully integrated Audio/Video Receivers rule the day for most) but as I said, they're conceptually straightforward.
HipKat
There needs to be some sort of pre-amp between any source and the amplifier to give you control over line levels (and ultimately over volume). That could be the pre-out from the Luxman, a mixer with RCA jacks or a conventional preamp.

As I said before, getting the amps to turn on and off is often the trick -- especially if you use very efficient speakers -- as a certain "volume" level (voltage) from the preamp is required to "wake" the amps and keep them awake.

These modular systems can be a whole lot of work (which is why fully integrated Audio/Video Receivers rule the day for most) but as I said, they're conceptually straightforward.
Whole lot of work is right. Maybe I should get some speakers, maybe an older set of CV's, get the receiver hooked up and going them figure out the amps. Seeing the original setup with all this had 3 amps, I wasn't sure if the Sonamps were acting as pre-amps or what. I wish when I picked it up, it was all connected still so I could have just taken note of the wiring
harshness
Preamps live in the line-level domain (<2 volts). Amps take line-level in and put out speaker-level voltages.

If these are a system, the Luxmans were the pre-amps/tuners and their speaker outs were perhaps not used.

Amps can be bridged (two amps put in series with the output of the second biased off of the first -- I don't think these models can be bridged) but they cannot be stacked (run in parallel). You only get one shot at applying amps to a line-level signal and then it becomes speaker-level. Once the signal reaches more than two volts, it can no longer be fed to an amp.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
zippyfrog
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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zippyfrog
However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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MikeD-C05
These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
T
Does cable charge box rent?
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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Bruce
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
Y
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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T
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
T
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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mwdxer1
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
tanman
I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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lordodogg
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
Hello again, haven't posted here in a while.

This morning, around 6:30am, I woke up and found the front panel lights on my HR44 on (I leave it off all the time as it is co-located with one of my Geminis).

Immediately thinking that either a reboot or power outage occurred, I checked the software version, and found that it's still the same release that was sent out last month.

I then ruled out a power outage by checking the clocks on my appliances and seeing that they're still correct (they reset when there's an outage, somewhat similar to the "blinking 12" on VCRs).

I then confirmed a reboot by checking the Upcoming Recordings (fka To-Do List) and seeing that the number was much lower than before (it always resets after a reboot).

I am definitely guessing what happened (and it may very well be actually what happened) is that the "Reset Required" prompt may have come up sometime overnight, and it eventually timed out and rebooted automatically. IIRC that prompt comes up when new software "plugins" have to be installed.

Would like to hear your thoughts, especially since I probably haven't talked to some of you reading this in a while (was a former CE member, left almost a year ago).

Thank you all in advance!
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Tom Speer
My HR54 blue light is on this morning. I think you ae right about the plugins. They are tweaking things in the customer National release. What version does your HR44 Genie have now? I think you are probably on the same varsion as the CE group today.
lordodogg
I believe mine says 0x1D7F
Tom Speer
That is what I have.
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Happened again today & have new software, 0x1d88