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Juan
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Looks like changes are coming to disney+
But gains 200k in US
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Bruce
OK.
Are you and Juan getting the links from the same source, that story was 5 years old.
The sun will come out, tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow. You're always a day away.

And, wrong.

Old link-

Discovery+ currently costs $5 per month with ads, or $7 per month without. Even at that fairly low price, it is already profitable with 20 million subscribers, the Journal reports.

DirecTV is the fastest growing consumer product in history. But as was explained, DBS, cable, broadcast, all had/have huge debt service to cover the delivery infrastructure. Cable, dishes, boxes, satellites, etc.,
And DirecTV has lost over 50% of it's subscribers and more then $50 Billion Dollars in value.
Streaming has none. The delivery system is paid for by the customer. It has no debt service. It has only one cost. Content.

And yet it cannot make a cent. An unprofitable business model.
2024 for most of them and again, you have forgotten about Netflix.
Tell me where the town is where people are setting around, waiting for streaming to come there.

EVERYONE who wants streaming, has it.
Yet they gain subs every quarter, Paramount+, for example, gained 9 million in just the 4th quarter, almost as many as DirecTV has lost.
The problem for you is, well, in this big diverse country, there are all sorts of people. People who will make DIFFERENT decisions than yours on all sorts of subjects. You are not an "early adopter" of a future universal trait. You are one person who made a decision based on what you want. Other people have different values, ideas, wants, needs, and will therefore make different decisions.
Why are you putting in a diversity lesson in a post about streaming?
No. If Disney knew how to make money, rather than lose $6B on an annualized basis, they would do so. They don't. No one does.

And, since the market will be EXACTLY the same in 2 or 5 or 20 years, that fact will remain the same.

Streaming is nice.

It just doesnt make any money.
Again Netflix, the rest of them predicts 2024.
I would love if Baskin-Robins decided to sell ice cream for 5 cents a quart. Unfortunatly, that is a bad business decision.
Like AT&T paying $67 Billion for a company now worth $15 Billion.
Like getting in the streaming business is.
Seems to me all those sports you like are expanding into the streaming word, just a few years ago, no NFL was available streaming, now every game will be next season, some streaming only on Prime, Peacock and ESPN+ ( except local broadcast of course).

So the NFL thinks streaming is a good idea.
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Again Netflix, the rest of them predicts 2024.

Everybody has a plan. Until they get punched in the mouth. (Mike Tyson)

There is nothing different about 2024 than 2023. No body is sitting around waiting for streaming to come to their town. No body is sitting around saying to the wife "honey, I just can't wait for next year, we are going to buy us some streaming."

Everyone that wants it, has it. And that is not a profit making number of people. It is really that simple. Enjoy it while it lasts, because the bubble is about to pop.

And again, no links, just tell me, EXACTLY what has to happen for this not to be true.

No one can.
Ronnie-
Everyone that wants it, has it.
If that is so, how do you explain rising subscribers on most each time it's reported?
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If that is so, how do you explain rising subscribers on most each time it's reported?
Freebies, give aways, discounts.

The next dollar these outfits make will be dollar one.

It is not a profitable business model. Really that simple.

And, at the end of the day, the consumer is the one that loses.
ncted
And, at the end of the day, the consumer is the one that loses.
Isn't that always the case? I was certainly losing when I had Dish and Directv. At least with streaming, I have a lot more control and flexibility about what I am buying, even if I might be paying a little more (which I haven't yet).
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Juan
Isn't that always the case? I was certainly losing when I had Dish and Directv. At least with streaming, I have a lot more control and flexibility about what I am buying, even if I might be paying a little more (which I haven't yet).
Do you really? Don't you really just want to pay for the shows you watch and enjoy?
ncted
Do you really? Don't you really just want to pay for the shows you watch and enjoy?
Ideally yes :) , but I've run those numbers. Unless I wait until everything comes out on physical media and then goes on sale a couple months later, it is a lot more expensive. That said, YTTV, Disney+/Hulu, Paramount+, Peacock, and Netflix (HD) cost me less per month than my parents pay to Spectrum for standard service with 2 DVRs. Seems pretty consumer-friendly in comparison.
Juan
Ideally yes :) , but I've run those numbers. Unless I wait until everything comes out on physical media and then goes on sale a couple months later, it is a lot more expensive. That said, YTTV, Disney+/Hulu, Paramount+, Peacock, and Netflix (HD) cost me less per month than my parents pay to Spectrum for standard service with 2 DVRs. Seems pretty consumer-friendly in comparison.
For now
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Bruce
Why is For Now a defense against Cord Savings?

You are correct, most are saving money For Now by dropping Traditional Providers for something better.

No one knows what the future will be like, when I left Comcast in 2003, no one thought things would be like it is today.

Only you and Sam would keep posting that saving money on TV Programming is a bad thing.
Juan
Why is For Now a defense against Cord Savings?

You are correct, most are saving money For Now by dropping Traditional Providers for something better.

No one knows what the future will be like, when I left Comcast in 2003, no one thought things would be like it is today.

Only you and Sam would keep posting that saving money on TV Programming is a bad thing.
How do you think streamers will become profitable...only one way..raise prices and cut costs
Bruce
How do you think streamers will become profitable...only one way..raise prices and cut costs
Duh.

How are Traditional Providers and Channels going to stay profitable, raise prices and cut costs.

Except Broadcasters will keep increasing per sub channel fees, Providers will keep raising prices, subscribers will keep leaving them, with less eyes watching the channels, more and more programming will be on the streaming services then, Streaming Services then have more subscribers.

Sounds like what has been going on the last few years.
Juan
Duh.

How are Traditional Providers and Channels going to stay profitable, raise prices and cut costs.

Except Broadcasters will keep increasing per sub channel fees, Providers will keep raising prices, subscribers will keep leaving them, with less eyes watching the channels, more and more programming will be on the streaming services then, Streaming Services then have more subscribers.

Sounds like what has been going on the last few years.
News flash...many streamers are owned by broadcasters and GASP will raise prices eventually to match cable prices
meStevo
News flash...many streamers are owned by broadcasters and GASP will raise prices eventually to match cable prices

Oh look, another Juan prediction. We know how those go.

YoutubeTV could double in price (news flash - it won't, at least not for a long, long time) and it would still be less most traditional providers would cost me, especially the satellite providers. It would have to triple to match the equivalent service from DirecTV... the fees alone are nearly a YoutubeTV sub themselves.
ncted
Yeah, sure. Streaming prices will probably increase over time. I'm going to make a controversial prediction here that cable and satellite prices will increase over time at the same rate or higher. Just a prediction though. Cable/Satellite prices could go down as well.

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Bilbo1
Satellite's days are numbered. A fairly large number from the consumer's standpoint, but not that big in terms of corporate planning. That's why DirecTV created DirecTV Stream and Dish created Sling. They are planning to deliver their services through streaming in the future.

I can see cable companies outsourcing content to the likes of DirecTV Stream or YTTV if video subscriber counts drop low enough. It's a fairly high margin business, but it's got its headaches in the form of carriage agreements, and you still need some subscribers to make money.

The fact that most streamers are distributing their own content removes the overhead of video distribution. That high margin that the cable company get can now go direct to the studio or to the consumer.

Anyone that doesn't see streaming as the future, and a profitable one at that is missing the whole point. The road there is somewhat clouded.


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Bruce
News flash...many streamers are owned by broadcasters and GASP will raise prices eventually to match cable prices
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meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
zippyfrog
That image is so true - especially after that Giants/Commanders game yesterday.
dfergie
Some tight games that went to the wire...
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
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I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!😉
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Ronnie-
I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.
Sorry for your loss.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
osu1991
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
dishstaller
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
Back on the Goliath Roller Coaster ... I'm interested to find more details as well ...
Like where on the track did this happen (somewhere I read that it was on the climb up the top), which is impossible ...

They really need to take that ride and add at the very least, seatbelts ...

The Park is opening back up on Friday, the ride will Not be opening ... personally, I would keep it closed until different type of restraints can be designed and installed (over the winter).

I find it hard to believe that this ride is even allowed to be running with the restraints that exist at the moment, there are other rides that use the same type and they have been shut down across the country.

You got to believe that every ride has at least 2 types of restraint systems in place.

I wonder what and when we will hear from the Manufacturer ... and whatever governing bodies control these ...

Just think, this is a Major Amusement Park .... I would not have any problem getting on the Roller Coasters I have rode ...

Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
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I would not be caught Dead on one of them

Yet IF you were on one, you might be caught dead.
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Jimbo
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
Well, the over the shoulder support is better, but would require reconfiguring the cars.
dishstaller
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
K
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.
JSheridan
Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.
dfergie
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Best episode ever.
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Best episode ever.
I actually think the very first episode was One of the Best ...
S1 E1 Yankee White
Where it all started in what was it, 2003 ?

edit:
Sorry, I got the shows mixed up, were talking Origins ...
I've liked Most of them once we've gotten past the 1st 3-4, getting to know who was who took a bit in the beginning.
It's a bit harder seeing we already Know the person, then go back and see how they became that person.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
dfergie
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
R
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...
Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Rick Island LINE-Johnny Cash
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Rock And Roll All Nite - Kiss
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Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution - AC/DC
Bobby
Kiss - The Art Of Noise
long_time_Dish
Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
dfergie
I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
H
No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
H
It also has a IPS and a OPS switch on the side of it with a power led light showing when is on. It seems to be very nice build switch
Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Wednesday 10-14, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱