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Hello and thanks for reading my post. I'm trying to align a Top 10 7.5' dish here in SoCal. I set the elevation angle and declination angle with a digital angle meter. My true south satellite here
is 119w Anik F3. I rotated the dish on the pole until I received a strong signal from Anik F3. Also, it's important to mention that the pole it's mounted on is perfectly vertical. Currently, I can get
signals down to 91W and up to maybe 131W. East of 91W I get nothing. So, even using the factory specified alignment data, I'm still not tracking the arc correctly. The problem is that if I try
to correct this problem, things even get worse. So, what I currently have seems to be the best the dish is capable of. Another thing I would like to mention is that the LNBF is installed correctly,
correct skew and F/D.
DISCUSSION:
I've aligned 6 or 7 C-Band dishes and I've never had a problem like this. Normally, I install the LNBF, set the F/D and skew, set the elevation angle, declination angle, true south, then sometimes a
slight adjustment of true south when I'm on a satellite at the bottom of the arc. This works every time, and I don't have any problems. All that I can assume is that there is something weird going
on like, the dish is worn out (excessive play), or it's damaged parabolically, or the quad mount isn't centered up correctly, etc. Visually however, it looks ok. They gave me 2 Titanium PLL LNBF's
to try out. Both had been out in the rain (water in the throat), so, I've ordered one of the new Titanium LNBF's that has the 5G filtering built in. I'll probably install the new LNBF in a couple days.
I think that both of the old LNBF's are bad because when I scanned 117W (having a hugely strong signal) I only got 30 channels and and 3 TP's. I should have got over a hundred channels and
maybe 35 TP's there.
IN CLOSING:
Any thoughts or suggestions that you might have would be appreciated. Once I have a known good LNBF, if I don't have better results, it might be time to get another dish.
is 119w Anik F3. I rotated the dish on the pole until I received a strong signal from Anik F3. Also, it's important to mention that the pole it's mounted on is perfectly vertical. Currently, I can get
signals down to 91W and up to maybe 131W. East of 91W I get nothing. So, even using the factory specified alignment data, I'm still not tracking the arc correctly. The problem is that if I try
to correct this problem, things even get worse. So, what I currently have seems to be the best the dish is capable of. Another thing I would like to mention is that the LNBF is installed correctly,
correct skew and F/D.
DISCUSSION:
I've aligned 6 or 7 C-Band dishes and I've never had a problem like this. Normally, I install the LNBF, set the F/D and skew, set the elevation angle, declination angle, true south, then sometimes a
slight adjustment of true south when I'm on a satellite at the bottom of the arc. This works every time, and I don't have any problems. All that I can assume is that there is something weird going
on like, the dish is worn out (excessive play), or it's damaged parabolically, or the quad mount isn't centered up correctly, etc. Visually however, it looks ok. They gave me 2 Titanium PLL LNBF's
to try out. Both had been out in the rain (water in the throat), so, I've ordered one of the new Titanium LNBF's that has the 5G filtering built in. I'll probably install the new LNBF in a couple days.
I think that both of the old LNBF's are bad because when I scanned 117W (having a hugely strong signal) I only got 30 channels and and 3 TP's. I should have got over a hundred channels and
maybe 35 TP's there.
IN CLOSING:
Any thoughts or suggestions that you might have would be appreciated. Once I have a known good LNBF, if I don't have better results, it might be time to get another dish.
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Let's get a visualization going on here.
"At 91w, pulling up on the dish causes the signal to decrease. There is no change if I press down on the dish."
Looks like you have to lower your elevation or declination a touch.
A hint to assure that the feed is indeed aimed at the dead center of the dish is what I did.
See if you can find a couple of paint can tops that telescope into each other. One that can slip inside of the feed.
Then tape them together and grab a wood dowel or a fiberglass driveway marker. Drill a hole in the center of the caps and put the straight rod through. Then fit the cobbled pointer up to the feed. Careful to not disturb the probe(s). Aim your feed dead nuts at the dish center. Snug the fasteners.
Of course with the dish at its highest arc the 0 skew reference on the feed must point straight up. Fix it there.
Next go back to whatever sat (91W) and see if you get a signal. Lift up, press down on the dish. You need to be in the middle of signal loss and peaked with the elevation/declination adjustment.
Now you need to figure out tracking. Next sat. W in the arc. Is the dish still peaked for signal? Or does raising or lowering the dish rim make a difference.
Go out further West. Are you starting to have to lift/lower the rim a lot more to get signal peak?
Once you can get a pattern of how the dish is tracking. Check this out and get back to us.
"At 91w, pulling up on the dish causes the signal to decrease. There is no change if I press down on the dish."
Looks like you have to lower your elevation or declination a touch.
A hint to assure that the feed is indeed aimed at the dead center of the dish is what I did.
See if you can find a couple of paint can tops that telescope into each other. One that can slip inside of the feed.
Then tape them together and grab a wood dowel or a fiberglass driveway marker. Drill a hole in the center of the caps and put the straight rod through. Then fit the cobbled pointer up to the feed. Careful to not disturb the probe(s). Aim your feed dead nuts at the dish center. Snug the fasteners.
Of course with the dish at its highest arc the 0 skew reference on the feed must point straight up. Fix it there.
Next go back to whatever sat (91W) and see if you get a signal. Lift up, press down on the dish. You need to be in the middle of signal loss and peaked with the elevation/declination adjustment.
Now you need to figure out tracking. Next sat. W in the arc. Is the dish still peaked for signal? Or does raising or lowering the dish rim make a difference.
Go out further West. Are you starting to have to lift/lower the rim a lot more to get signal peak?
Once you can get a pattern of how the dish is tracking. Check this out and get back to us.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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I thought I posted it as I usually have nothing to do but sit at my desk in the morning scrolling the interwebs , but my mom passed away the day before so my mind was mush.I noticed you missed last week's… Much like the SEC Shorts!
College Football Playoff nears agreement on 24-team expansion that could end title games
The College Football Playoff field is about to get much more crowded as the conferences near a deal to double the size of the field to 24 teams starting next year
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Mark Harmon is coming back as Gibbs in Origins, for the full season. Just saw, Dinozzo too, on NCIS . That will be an interesting writing project.
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Mark Harmon Returning To 'NCIS: Origins' As Gibbs For Season 3
Mark Harmon is returning to NCIS: Origins for a season-long arc.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
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I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. 
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Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.
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Can't imagine what the son is going through.
Dad levitated and bled then fell to his death from coaster
Eyewitnesses have shared fresh details of the horrific accident that happened at Six Flags Over Georgia on Monday afternoon.
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?
Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.
Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...
NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system
I'm glad to see ...
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