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I'm trying to find the least delayed CNBC signal I can. I'm not looking to hack in (but might do it out of desperation), I'm just looking for someone more expert in how they broadcast, and what is available either FTA or by subscription. And I'm certainly willing to compensate someone who can help me get there. I'm on east coast of U.S.

As a small individual stock trader, seconds matter. The large institutions and news organizations certainly receive CNBC with virtually no delay. Stock price movements prove this. As a cable TV or streaming CNBC subscriber the delay can be anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds, which for a trader, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE.

I previously was able to receive CNBC through one of my brokerages with an approximate 2 second delay from real time. It's easy to calculate as CNBC has a real time clock on their screen and you can compare it to the National Time Clock.

That video however, disappeared a few years ago (not sure why they eliminated it) and I've not seen anything close to it, currently the best signal I get is 15 seconds delayed.

All that said, I'm not trying to take some shortcut, I just want to do this right and am not an expert (although I can hold my on technology). I'm willing to put in a 10ft dish if necessary. I'll pay a subscription if necessary, I'll buy whatever equipment is necessary (within reason). I haven't been able to find a CNBC commercial account contact to see if I can get a direct feed subscription. Again, I just haven't yet found a solution that isn't less than 15 second delayed.

Anybody out there got any ideas???

FYI, there have been a couple of previous threads discussing this subject over the last 14 years, neither seemed to end in success, or if they did, the solution was not shared.

Here are links to the previous threads.... And yes if I solve this, I'd be more than willing to share what works with this forum.


Any help is much appreciated.

Regards,
CT Coastal Guy
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Years ago I did a bunch of consulting work and supported Dow Jones Telerate feeds for brokerages and some private equity firms who also ran proprietary trading desks. They were looking to do similar things. It was all I could do to get the message into their collective heads that the days of using CATV or satellite mechanisms for data transfer were over. We are wholly in the era of no longer hearing the neighborhood simultaneously cheer the grand slam in the World Series or the extra-time goal in the World Cup. That era is history. This is the world of stacked streaming buffers of various sizes, fed by varying packet rates.

Your best bang for your buck would be to research the Bloomberg Professional Services APIs and the various APIs available from your brokerage, etc. to see what can be programmed and displayed on a separate desktop display as a stream of news headlines with personalized alerts. Relegate the "talking box" to an asynchronous, delayed video version of a 100 character headline that you can read with minimal delay.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I'm trying to find the least delayed CNBC signal I can. I'm not looking to hack in (but might do it out of desperation), I'm just looking for someone more expert in how they broadcast, and what is available either FTA or by subscription. And I'm certainly willing to compensate someone who can help me get there. I'm on east coast of U.S.

As a small individual stock trader, seconds matter. The large institutions and news organizations certainly receive CNBC with virtually no delay. Stock price movements prove this. As a cable TV or streaming CNBC subscriber the delay can be anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds, which for a trader, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE.

I previously was able to receive CNBC through one of my brokerages with an approximate 2 second delay from real time. It's easy to calculate as CNBC has a real time clock on their screen and you can compare it to the National Time Clock.

That video however, disappeared a few years ago (not sure why they eliminated it) and I've not seen anything close to it, currently the best signal I get is 15 seconds delayed.

All that said, I'm not trying to take some shortcut, I just want to do this right and am not an expert (although I can hold my on technology). I'm willing to put in a 10ft dish if necessary. I'll pay a subscription if necessary, I'll buy whatever equipment is necessary (within reason). I haven't been able to find a CNBC commercial account contact to see if I can get a direct feed subscription. Again, I just haven't yet found a solution that isn't less than 15 second delayed.

Anybody out there got any ideas???

FYI, there have been a couple of previous threads discussing this subject over the last 14 years, neither seemed to end in success, or if they did, the solution was not shared.

Here are links to the previous threads.... And yes if I solve this, I'd be more than willing to share what works with this forum.


Any help is much appreciated.

Regards,
CT Coastal Guy
Thanks for the input. I'm guessing there is a nice cottage industry consulting for Hedge Funds & Institutions regarding lowest latency technologies for data / news feeds.

You may have heard of the hedge funds that place their data centers in buildings next to the Nasdaq and NYSE exchange data centers, just to shave a nanosecond or two off of their quotes/trades. For them, it's THAT important.

For what I do, I can actually scrape out a profit with a two second delay. For me it's more about having company specific knowledge that takes interpretation and takes a few seconds for the market to absorb. The big market makers / hedge funds just try to front run each other for a $10 profit on a $100K trade, and do it 1000 times per day.

I don't subscribe to Bloomberg, last I checked it costs about $35K per year per seat, that's of questionable value for a little guy like me. I use other services tailored more toward the individual traders for about 1/3 of what Bloomberg would cost. And as you suggest, the big guys may very well have API's integrated with their Bloomberg terminals to minimize CNBC & other News network delays.

I might be able to find or have someone create some kind of API to work with one of my two brokerage / trading services. That's over my pay grade and I may have to start picking the brains of the couple of coders I know.

I was just hoping there was a straight forward direct broadcast satellite way of bypassing the delays/buffers associated with all of the standard cable/streaming services.

For what it's worth, the shortest delay I've found currently is audio only through Sirius XM satellite, at about 15 seconds.
wvman
Bloomberg Business does have a FTA ITC unencrypted channel on 127W Galaxy 13 Satellite at 4020/H/30000.
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Thanks for the input. I'm guessing there is a nice cottage industry consulting for Hedge Funds & Institutions regarding lowest latency technologies for data / news feeds.

You may have heard of the hedge funds that place their data centers in buildings next to the Nasdaq and NYSE exchange data centers, just to shave a nanosecond or two off of their quotes/trades. For them, it's THAT important.

For what I do, I can actually scrape out a profit with a two second delay. For me it's more about having company specific knowledge that takes interpretation and takes a few seconds for the market to absorb. The big market makers / hedge funds just try to front run each other for a $10 profit on a $100K trade, and do it 1000 times per day.

I don't subscribe to Bloomberg, last I checked it costs about $35K per year per seat, that's of questionable value for a little guy like me. I use other services tailored more toward the individual traders for about 1/3 of what Bloomberg would cost. And as you suggest, the big guys may very well have API's integrated with their Bloomberg terminals to minimize CNBC & other News network delays.

I might be able to find or have someone create some kind of API to work with one of my two brokerage / trading services. That's over my pay grade and I may have to start picking the brains of the couple of coders I know.

I was just hoping there was a straight forward direct broadcast satellite way of bypassing the delays/buffers associated with all of the standard cable/streaming services.

For what it's worth, the shortest delay I've found currently is audio only through Sirius XM satellite, at about 15 seconds.
Bloomberg Business does have a FTA unencrypted channel on 127W Galaxy 13 Satellite at 4020/H/30000, but I don't believe there's any sort of delay.

All of the CNBC Business channels I've seen were encrypted. They used to be in the clear on one of the Canadian birds, but I haven't seen them there for sometime.

Here's the problem with C-Band these days. I'm constantly chasing down channels because they were either moved or encrypted. If they scramble, even if you do relocate them, you're still SOL.

A person without the basics on how to install and align a dish, isn't going to have much luck keeping up with channel moves or frequency changes. It's even more difficult with the 5G crap causing problems on certain satellites.

www.tvrosat.com is a good site to get some idea what you're up against. If you go under the Satellite Charts section, you can look at the programming on each satellite. Anything listed as FTA will be available on most any FTA receiver.

Good luck, but I think you may be chasing your tail on this one. Best of luck.
wvman
I'm trying to find the least delayed CNBC signal I can. I'm not looking to hack in (but might do it out of desperation), I'm just looking for someone more expert in how they broadcast, and what is available either FTA or by subscription. And I'm certainly willing to compensate someone who can help me get there. I'm on east coast of U.S.

As a small individual stock trader, seconds matter. The large institutions and news organizations certainly receive CNBC with virtually no delay. Stock price movements prove this. As a cable TV or streaming CNBC subscriber the delay can be anywhere from 15 to 45 seconds, which for a trader, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE.

I previously was able to receive CNBC through one of my brokerages with an approximate 2 second delay from real time. It's easy to calculate as CNBC has a real time clock on their screen and you can compare it to the National Time Clock.

That video however, disappeared a few years ago (not sure why they eliminated it) and I've not seen anything close to it, currently the best signal I get is 15 seconds delayed.

All that said, I'm not trying to take some shortcut, I just want to do this right and am not an expert (although I can hold my on technology). I'm willing to put in a 10ft dish if necessary. I'll pay a subscription if necessary, I'll buy whatever equipment is necessary (within reason). I haven't been able to find a CNBC commercial account contact to see if I can get a direct feed subscription. Again, I just haven't yet found a solution that isn't less than 15 second delayed.

Anybody out there got any ideas???

FYI, there have been a couple of previous threads discussing this subject over the last 14 years, neither seemed to end in success, or if they did, the solution was not shared.

Here are links to the previous threads.... And yes if I solve this, I'd be more than willing to share what works with this forum.


Any help is much appreciated.

Regards,
CT Coastal Guy
I don't know if this will help or not, but at least it is somewhere to start. CNBC Leadership Team
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Foxbat
Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
Scott Greczkowski
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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dishstaller
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Foxbat
Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
dishstaller
Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
navychop
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Foxbat
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

🙄
Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

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Jimbo
Back on the Goliath Roller Coaster ... I'm interested to find more details as well ...
Like where on the track did this happen (somewhere I read that it was on the climb up the top), which is impossible ...

They really need to take that ride and add at the very least, seatbelts ...

The Park is opening back up on Friday, the ride will Not be opening ... personally, I would keep it closed until different type of restraints can be designed and installed (over the winter).

I find it hard to believe that this ride is even allowed to be running with the restraints that exist at the moment, there are other rides that use the same type and they have been shut down across the country.

You got to believe that every ride has at least 2 types of restraint systems in place.

I wonder what and when we will hear from the Manufacturer ... and whatever governing bodies control these ...

Just think, this is a Major Amusement Park .... I would not have any problem getting on the Roller Coasters I have rode ...

Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
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navychop
I would not be caught Dead on one of them

Yet IF you were on one, you might be caught dead.
dishstaller
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
Jimbo
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
dishstaller
with a Seat belt as last resort.
According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
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I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Titanium
Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
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No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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TheRatPatrol
Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
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Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
Was Gibbs still there when you quit watching ?
If so, A Lot has happened ....

It's been pretty good all along , once you get use to Gibbs being gone.
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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dishstaller
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I bought the fixed color version of these bulbs for my store several years ago...work great and no more replacing ballast. Finally had one go out and when I went back to Amazon I saw that now they come in selectable versions so no more guess work as to what color light would do best in a certain area. They are now double OR single ended...used to be strictly one way or the other. If any of you are looking at replacing the old style 4 or 8 ft bulbs, you might want to give these a try. The 8 footers are BRIGHT. I put 5 in my shooting/target shed and you can get a decent tan if you are in there long enough.

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When we re-lamped my in-Laws' house for sale last year, we were able to get all the Edison bulbs and a few fixtures with switch-selectable Color Temperature. We tried a few and settled on 3000°K as the best fit for the house. Matching the lighting in all the rooms made for an inviting experience. The Shop was the only place that we went with 4000°K for the LED 4' fixtures.

The house was sold within a month of going on the market, so we must have done something right.

The other advantage is if the new owners decide that they prefer a warmer light, they can unscrew the bulbs (I think it was close to 70 bulbs) and set them to the 2500K/2700K settings.

I'll have to check these out. Thanks!
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