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VictoriaFTA
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FCC C Band Dish Registration

Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone who has had experience with registering their C-band antennas with the FCC might be able to help out. I have completed all of Form 312 and Schedule B and have them saved as drafts in the ICFS, but it is my understanding that all C-band registrations need something called a "Frequency Coordination" report. How does one go about getting one of these, and how much do you think it might cost me? I have no idea who I should contact in order to get one of these done, but I would like my antennas to be registered ASAP and this is holding me up.

Do you think the FCC might be willing to waive this requirement for an individual? I don't see why this should be necessary for a residential site. I'm certainly not going to be interfering with anyone's signals with my Rx-only antennas, and it seems like an overly burdensome requirement for an individual. Indeed, they have waived this requirement before, but apparently only for 90 days in 2018?


Under Commission rules, applications for earth station licenses or registrations in the 3.7-4.2
GHz band must be accompanied by an exhibit demonstrating coordination with terrestrial stations.19 The
purpose of this coordination requirement is to establish the baseline level of interference that an earth
station must accept in frequency bands shared by the FS and FSS on a co-primary basis. The coordination
results entitle the FSS earth station to the interference protection levels agreed to during coordination,
including against subsequent FS licensees.20 However, according to the Satellite Industry Association,
many receive-only earth station operators are deterred from voluntarily registering their antennas for
interference protection due to the costs of completing the registration process, including the need for a
coordination report.21 The Commission also uses information collected in applications for earth station
licenses and registrations to assist it in considering whether its rules require modification to accommodate
changing market and technological conditions, and to facilitate the Commission's efforts to use spectrum
more efficiently.22

We observe that the coordination requirement may impose an unnecessary burden on applicants
considering whether to file during the 90-day window, as the freeze on the filing of applications for new
or modified fixed microwave licenses will maintain the current interference environment for existing
earth stations, as there will be no additional fixed links in the band that could increase the interference
received by authorized earth stations in the 3.7-4.2 GHz band. Thus, to obtain the best information
possible on existing earth stations in this band in furtherance of the Commission's ongoing inquiry
without imposing a potentially unnecessary economic burden on eligible FSS earth station applicants in
the 3.7-4.2 GHz band filing within the 90-day window, the International Bureau hereby grants a
temporary waiver of the frequency coordination requirement.23 Applicants who file within the 90-day
window will otherwise be processed normally. Registrations or licenses granted for applications filed
without the coordination report will include a condition noting that the license or registration does not
afford interference protection from FS transmissions. Upon announcing the termination of the freeze, the
International Bureau may modify or terminate the waiver by requiring or permitting registrants or
licensees who filed applications within the 90-day window without a coordination report to file such a
report as required by the Commission's rules, and to take any appropriate action in light of such filing.
Waiver of the Commission's rules is appropriate where particular facts make strict compliance
with a rule inconsistent with the public interest, special circumstances warrant a deviation from the
general rule, and the waiver does not undermine the validity of the general rule.24 In the present case we
find that the Commission's pending inquiry into operations in the 3.7-4.2 GHz band and the interests of
equity warrant providing earth station operators with a chance to file applications despite the freeze.
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VictoriaFTA said:
Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone who has had experience with registering their C-band antennas with the FCC might be able to help out. I have completed all of Form 312 and Schedule B and have them saved as drafts in the ICFS, but it is my understanding that all C-band registrations need something called a "Frequency Coordination" report. How does one go about getting one of these, and how much do you think it might cost me? I have no idea who I should contact in order to get one of these done, but I would like my antennas to be registered ASAP and this is holding me up.

Do you think the FCC might be willing to waive this requirement for an individual? I don't see why this should be necessary for a residential site. I'm certainly not going to be interfering with anyone's signals with my Rx-only antennas, and it seems like an overly burdensome requirement for an individual. Indeed, they have waived this requirement before, but apparently only for 90 days in 2018?

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That sounds more like a requirement for those stations that uplink.
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That sounds more like a requirement for those stations that uplink.
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There was a one time opportunity to apply for an FCC License that would have protected your dish from interference on C-band frequencies. This was seven years ago (2018), and does not look to ever be repeated. Any efforts at this late date that involve spending money on surveys, or application fees, etc. would be money going straight down the drain for no good reason. You missed your chance back then...blink and opportunities sometimes disappear for good.
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mikekohl said:
There was a one time opportunity to apply for an FCC License that would have protected your dish from interference on C-band frequencies. This was seven years ago (2018), and does not look to ever be repeated. Any efforts at this late date that involve spending money on surveys, or application fees, etc. would be money going straight down the drain for no good reason. You missed your chance back then...blink and opportunities sometimes disappear for good.
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I don't think many of us realized back then just how bad the 5G interference would be. Oh well.
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VictoriaFTA
mikekohl said:
There was a one time opportunity to apply for an FCC License that would have protected your dish from interference on C-band frequencies. This was seven years ago (2018), and does not look to ever be repeated. Any efforts at this late date that involve spending money on surveys, or application fees, etc. would be money going straight down the drain for no good reason. You missed your chance back then...blink and opportunities sometimes disappear for good.
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This kind of naysaying is why people didn't register in 2018. There was a huge fee ($495 -- that's more like $1,000 now after all this inflation in the past 7 years) and people said there would be no benefit to doing so. Indeed, the FCC didn't say there would be any benefit to registering your antennas until well after they closed registrations, so they were basically expecting you to blindly fling $1,000 at them and have faith they would make it worth your while somehow. It was total Bullsh!t the way they handled it. Apparently they offered various forms of compensation to C-band earth station incumbents, like paying for the upgrade of any antennas sized smaller than 3.7m or offering a lump sum payment of up to $16,000 per orthomode antenna, several years after closing registrations.

Anyways, I have no intentions of missing out on incumbency status now. It's much cheaper to register an earth station now, at $205 per entire site instead of $495 ($1,000 in today's money) per antenna like it was back in 2018. Trump just signed the Billionaire Bailout Bill, and in that there is a provision that the FCC is now authorized and must engage in a spectrum auction of at least another 100 MHz of the C-band in the next two years. Right now we are all incumbents in the 4000 - 4200 MHz range of the C-band spectrum.

So if we register now we should be eligible for some kind of compensation from upcoming spectrum auctions of at least another 100 MHz of the C-band spectrum. If it ends up being only 1/3 of what they offered the first time around (after all, now they're probably only stealing 100 MHz whereas back then they stole 300 MHz), that would still be $5,333 in lump sum compensation per orthomode antenna or at the very least paying for the new 5G filters every incumbent earth station is going to need now that filters out the below 4100 MHz range.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
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I was going to ask if this was 1980. Seems I remember that "earth stations" (c-band receiving dishes) were actually supposed to be registered back then. Or am I misremembering? Hadn't heard anything about this new registration for interference
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This is the site used for processing claims when they stole the first 300 MHz:

About The RPC – RPC Website

web.archive.org web.archive.org

I figure they will launch a new program when they steal another 100 MHz (or more) in the years to come. It is imperative that all C-band dish owners get registered now to be considered incumbents deserving of compensation for 5G Spectrum Theft Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

The C-band is a 500 megahertz ("MHz") segment of spectrum from 3.7 to 4.2 gigahertz ("GHz"), which is now mostly used by fixed satellite companies to provide content to video and audio broadcasters, cable systems, and other content distributors. The FCC is requiring that incumbent licensees within the C-band clear existing services from the lower 300 MHz of the C-band (3.7–4.0 GHz), making it available for flexible use for wireless services. Existing satellite operations will be repacked and move into the upper 200 MHz of the band (4.0–4.2 GHz). Incumbent space station operators, incumbent earth station operators, and incumbent Fixed Service licensees will transition out of the 3.7–4.0 GHz band and will be reimbursed for their reasonable relocation costs.
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VictoriaFTA said:
This is the site used for processing claims when they stole the first 300 MHz:

About The RPC – RPC Website

web.archive.org web.archive.org

I figure they will launch a new program when they steal another 100 MHz (or more) in the years to come. It is imperative that all C-band dish owners get registered now to be considered incumbents deserving of compensation for 5G Spectrum Theft Part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Specifically, how does one register their "Earth Station"? Website pointers appreciated.
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Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I have been optimizing the site the past few days... and got us here now. :) We are rocking now!

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Yeah. It's probably something going on with the MacBook as my iPhone has been pretty snappy.
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I rebooted my MacBook Air and it's zipping right along. Sorry, but it was taking over 20 seconds to load pages, with the pulsing blue bars so it was munching on something.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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Scott Greczkowski said:
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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dishstaller
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Hughesnet cancelling email addresses

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…
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Well, I helped him set up a gmail acct....I actually wanted to see what the new process is for setting up a gmail acct since it had been years since I set mine up. Anyway, I showed him how to forward the emails he wanted to keep over.
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If Earth had shorter days,
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Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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navychop said:
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…😉
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Man falls to his death on roller coaster at 6 Flags in GA

Can't help but wonder if a worker overlooked checking the harness. I rarely ride a roller coaster anymore but when I do I check the harness myself pretty aggressively.
Can't imagine what the son is going through.

www.dailymail.com

Dad levitated and bled then fell to his death from coaster

Eyewitnesses have shared fresh details of the horrific accident that happened at Six Flags Over Georgia on Monday afternoon.
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Back on the Goliath Roller Coaster ... I'm interested to find more details as well ...
Like where on the track did this happen (somewhere I read that it was on the climb up the top), which is impossible ...

They really need to take that ride and add at the very least, seatbelts ...

The Park is opening back up on Friday, the ride will Not be opening ... personally, I would keep it closed until different type of restraints can be designed and installed (over the winter).

I find it hard to believe that this ride is even allowed to be running with the restraints that exist at the moment, there are other rides that use the same type and they have been shut down across the country.

You got to believe that every ride has at least 2 types of restraint systems in place.

I wonder what and when we will hear from the Manufacturer ... and whatever governing bodies control these ...

Just think, this is a Major Amusement Park .... I would not have any problem getting on the Roller Coasters I have rode ...

Imagine what these County Fairs and others like them, I would not be caught Dead on one of them ... they get put up and tore down every other week, where is the safety for those rides ... No Thank You.
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Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?

Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
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I would not be caught Dead on one of them
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Yet IF you were on one, you might be caught dead.
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Jimbo said:
bgtsafari.com

Could B&M’s Patent on the “Clamshell” Ride Restraint Design Offer Clues as to What Happened on Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia?

Incredibly sad news out of Six Flags Over Georgia as it’s being reported one man was killed after being ejected from Goliath, the B&M hyper coaster. Many news outlets have posted pictures of pe…
bgtsafari.com bgtsafari.com
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Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
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dishstaller said:
Had no idea there were that many redundancies built into those restraints.
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It makes sense, however, I would want more types of restraints, so if one doesn't work, the other does ... the restraints coming over the shoulder I would have expected ... with a Seat belt as last resort.

Fwiw, I inquired with what they use on Coasters at Cedar Point, various Coasters, different restraints according to what the car and track requires ...

NONE of the Coasters at CP use THAT particular system :)
I'm glad to see ...
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Jimbo said:
with a Seat belt as last resort.
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According to the article, when you see a seat belt on a ride like this, it is basically used as a way of making sure the rider isn't too large/fat to safely ride the ride.
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OTHER  Mini Multiswitch

I just received 6 receiver 2 port mini Multiswitch and it work great, no external power need it, and you can connect 6 receiver instead of 4 on most Mini Multiswitches... If anyone is interested in where they can get one PM me....
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Have you tested using external power? Over the years, have found unpowered polarity switching to be unreliable. Especially problematic when used with DiSEqC motors or switch stacking.
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No I have not. I just got it the other day and it is connected to six receivers working just fine. What I do is non power mini multi-switches work best with LNBF's and with LNB's
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Tech News Weekly 459

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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
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Wait, Tony is the director now? Apologies, I stopped watching a while ago.
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Was Gibbs still there when you quit watching ?
If so, A Lot has happened ....

It's been pretty good all along , once you get use to Gibbs being gone.
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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Meet up in San Francisco! NVIDIA RTX Spark Meet & Greet 10/16!

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Apple's New Smart Home Ecosystem

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dishstaller
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4 ft LED tube bulbs now come with color selector

I bought the fixed color version of these bulbs for my store several years ago...work great and no more replacing ballast. Finally had one go out and when I went back to Amazon I saw that now they come in selectable versions so no more guess work as to what color light would do best in a certain area. They are now double OR single ended...used to be strictly one way or the other. If any of you are looking at replacing the old style 4 or 8 ft bulbs, you might want to give these a try. The 8 footers are BRIGHT. I put 5 in my shooting/target shed and you can get a decent tan if you are in there long enough.

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When we re-lamped my in-Laws' house for sale last year, we were able to get all the Edison bulbs and a few fixtures with switch-selectable Color Temperature. We tried a few and settled on 3000°K as the best fit for the house. Matching the lighting in all the rooms made for an inviting experience. The Shop was the only place that we went with 4000°K for the LED 4' fixtures.

The house was sold within a month of going on the market, so we must have done something right.

The other advantage is if the new owners decide that they prefer a warmer light, they can unscrew the bulbs (I think it was close to 70 bulbs) and set them to the 2500K/2700K settings.

I'll have to check these out. Thanks!
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