Apple IPAD Owner's Thread

[JAG72]

I'm lost. What option is that?

The option to download purchases from iTunes like Rocky mentioned.

 

[DodgerKing]

The option to download purchases from iTunes like Rocky mentioned.

Which is why I do not really see iCloud being all the useful for most. I guess it is a cool little backup device.

 

[JAG72]

Which is why I do not really see iCloud being all the useful for most. I guess it is a cool little backup device.

Free backups for all the songs that are purchased from iTunes is pretty cool to me. This is huge for everybody that has ever purchased something from iTunes IMO.

 

[DodgerKing]

Free backups for all the songs that are purchased from iTunes is pretty cool to me. This is huge for everybody that has ever purchased something from iTunes IMO.

Aren't your purchases already backed up in the iTunes store anyway? I know I can log in and see everything I purchased in the past and reload it if I need to

Here are the purchases from iTunes for both my wife and my account. Notice, I only bought two albums and my wife only bought two albums? All of our other songs were downloaded via CD. Both of use bought some books. If I deleted any of these I just redownload it

 

[JAG72]

Aren't your purchases already backed up in the iTunes store anyway? I know I can log in and see everything I purchased in the past and reload it if I need to

When you reinstall iTunes on a new PC those will be gone from your Purchased section. Mine only shows 19 of the 100's of items that I have purchased.

 

[dangue]

Aren't your purchases already backed up in the iTunes store anyway? I know I can log in and see everything I purchased in the past and reload it if I need to

Here are the purchases from iTunes for both my wife and my account. Notice, I only bought two albums and my wife only bought two albums? All of our other songs were downloaded via CD. Both of use bought some books. If I deleted any of these I just redownload it

No, songs are not like Apps in iTunes (or at least up until now they haven't been). If something happens and you lose a song (device or computer hard drive failure) you have to purchase any songs again from iTunes, you cannot just simply re-download them.

This happened to me once, I called in to Apple thinking I was doing something wrong. The representative was very helpful in explaining that it was indeed like that and then proceeded to give me a one time credit so that I could repurchase the lost song for free.

So iCloud is a huge improvement as far as that goes.

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[JAG72]

No, songs are not like Apps in iTunes (or at least up until now they haven't been). If something happens and you lose a song (device or computer hard drive failure) you have to purchase any songs again from iTunes, you cannot just simply re-download them.

This happened to me once, I called in to Apple thinking I was doing something wrong. The representative was very helpful in explaining that it was indeed like that and then proceeded to give me a one time credit so that I could repurchase the lost song for free.

So iCloud is a huge improvement as far as that goes.

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This is the way I thought it was but have been lucky enough not to have lost anything yet. I agree that this is a huge addition.

 

[DodgerKing]

No, songs are not like Apps in iTunes (or at least up until now they haven't been). If something happens and you lose a song (device or computer hard drive failure) you have to purchase any songs again from iTunes, you cannot just simply re-download them.

This happened to me once, I called in to Apple thinking I was doing something wrong. The representative was very helpful in explaining that it was indeed like that and then proceeded to give me a one time credit so that I could repurchase the lost song for free.

So iCloud is a huge improvement as far as that goes.

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Ahhh... OK.. I thought you can just download them again. So then I guess iCloud is a nice backup application to have. I guess I was wrong in my previous assumptions about iCloud.

 

[DodgerKing]

This is the way I thought it was but have been lucky enough not to have lost anything yet. I agree that this is a huge addition.

I too would now have to agree with you as well. Backing up hundreds to even thousands of dollars worth of music on an offsite server for free is more than worth it.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Free backups for all the songs that are purchased from iTunes is pretty cool to me. This is huge for everybody that has ever purchased something from iTunes IMO.

Agreed, and I am using it right now. It comes free with five gb of storage for anything, can sync mail, contacts, photos, it is very different from dropbox or google/amazon's cloud. Not sure why the hate for something that is not even out, and I suspect there will be plenty of uses identified as the time for its general release nears.

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[meStevo]

I don't like the idea of a backup service for stuff that they should just record you own and be able to just reauthorize. Why are apps and music different... Guessing it has to do with the RIAA?

 

[rockymtnhigh]

The reality is until today, anything I bought but had not backed up or lost was gone forever. This is a huge step.

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[dangue]

I don't like the idea of a backup service for stuff that they should just record you own and be able to just reauthorize. Why are apps and music different... Guessing it has to do with the RIAA?

Yes, the previous deals with the record labels was that a purchase entitled buyers to the single download and that any additional downloads would have to be paid for again. That's why last week's deals with the labels were key in getting this done.

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[DodgerKing]

Yes, the previous deals with the record labels was that a purchase entitled buyers to the single download and that any additional downloads would have to be paid for again. That's why last week's deals with the labels were key in getting this done.

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I don't understand why that is. When you buy a CD it is yours forever. The same should be true with downloaded material

 

[JAG72]

I don't understand why that is. When you buy a CD it is yours forever. The same should be true with downloaded material

Break the CD and it is just as worthless as a lost download.

 

[dangue]

Break the CD and it is just as worthless as a lost download.

That and the labels fighting for every possible dollar while acknowledging that this is the way of the future as little as possible.

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[DodgerKing]

Break the CD and it is just as worthless as a lost download.

True. But how often has that happened? I have hundreds of CDs, many over 20 years, and have never broke one. All of them are still very much playable. Hard Drive crashing is many many times more likely.

In any event, that is why I backup my downloads and CDs on multiple devices.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I am now running iOS5 on my iPad. Had a few scary moments, since I did not have the developer version of iTunes installed, but it is running very well, and there are several things I like:

The notifications are great. They pop up at the top of the screen, but are unobtrusive. Unlike Android, where they are always present, these just are hidden until you pull down from the top of the screen, and new notifications stay at the top instead of those stupid pop-ups.

Safari is way improved. The tabbed browsing is SO much nicer than Safari on 4.3.3 .

The newstand has potential once the magazines I subscribe to are compliant wth it. For now, I moved the app to a secondary screen. I have to test out the message system with other folks on iOS5, but it looks interesting.

All the gestures I have been using since I tweaked my iPad are now native.

Reminders looks like a basic to-do list, not necessarily better than toodledo and 2Do, which I currently use.

The iPod app is now "music" with a different icon. You can now tweet directly from safari, which is interesting. AND it seems as if it gets slightly better battery life. I stayed at 100% for considerably longer than I did with 2.4.3, but that could just be my brain playing games.

 

[DodgerKing]

iPod APP has a different image. Too bad they cannot make that girly looking photo APP have a different image.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Yeah, I said the iPod app had a different image. I preferred the original one.

My biggest annoyance with the iPad is the obnoxious amount of time it takes to backup. A good 30 minutes each time. I know you can cancel it, but it definitely is NOT magical. And no reason for it.