I just called Dish and they told me I could not get a ViP612 as an upgrade. He even said that it is not avalible to new subs. Even though I wanted to get it added. Also I was told that I would need an additional 18 month contract to get a 211. WTF! Two different 18 month contracts? ![Confused :confused: :confused:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)