Dish Faces April 30 Deadline In TiVo Case

As someone considering getting Dish service? Should I be concerned?

Dish's public statement is "At this time, our DVR customers are not impacted", not too helpful but can't really expect anything forward looking.

I've got to assume there will be a licence/purchase solution to avoid the court disablement order but since I've no experience of Dish 24 month contracts:

- if there is a price increase to cover licencing etc are you exempt during the contract period? Or is it worded as a one way only obligation?
- if the unimaginable happens and there is a material change to the level of DVD service, is there an escape clause avoiding the cancellation fee? I assume *NO*

Rumor has Dish buying Tivo.
 
yeah and I don't believe rumors, hence I was curious on the contract wording in case they go the licencing route (or get pushed into materially changing the DVR functionality).


The rumor I heard was confirmed by the tech that installed my 922, for what it's worth. He also said the rumor is similar to what her heard before they bought Sling.
 
Quoted from an earlier post:

"Defendants are hereby FURTHER ORDERED to, within thirty (30) days of the issuance of this order, disable the DVR functionality (i.e., disable all storage to and playback from a hard disk drive of television data) in all but 192,708 units of the Infringing Products that have been placed with an end user or subscriber
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According to the quoted text of the ruling, units already in the field with end users are NOT subject to the order.
 
Quoted from an earlier post:

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According to the quoted text of the ruling, units already in the field with end users are NOT subject to the order.

Wrong, wrong, wrong!!

It said to disable the DVR functionality "in all but 192,708 units of the Infringing Products that have been placed with an end user or subscribe".

That means to disable the DVR functionality in every DVR placed with an end user or subscriber except the 192,708 covered by a previous order, which were covered by a payment from Dish to TiVo on a previous lawsuit. (The original PVRs before DishNet started calling them DVRs.)

Going by the way you read it, that would mean that DishNet only has 192,708 DVRs installed in peoples' homes. That is obviously not correct, since DishNet acknowledges more than 8 million installed DVRs.
 
The rumor I heard was confirmed by the tech that installed my 922, for what it's worth. He also said the rumor is similar to what her heard before they bought Sling.

I am not trying to be a smartass are anything, I know that it sounds like it, but why would a tech that installed a 922 know anything more concrete than me or you, or anyone else that can read press releases, etc... on the internet?
 
So which DVRs are safe? Is my 211 + EHD safe? I know you guys say it's not a DVR even though it is...
 
Echostar's original DVR Dishplayer Model 7100 and Replay were the first DVR's. TIVO came later and patented the idea of recording to a Hard Drive. TIVO is being very heavy handed, if their product is so superior, I have to ask why are they bleeding subscribers.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. :rolleyes:

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"The two early consumer digital video recorders, ReplayTV and TiVo, were launched at the 1998 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. "

"At the 1999 CES, Dish Network demonstrated the hardware that would later have DVR capability with the assistance of Microsoft software. "
 
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. :rolleyes:

From Digital video recorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
"The two early consumer digital video recorders, ReplayTV and TiVo, were launched at the 1998 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. "

"At the 1999 CES, Dish Network demonstrated the hardware that would later have DVR capability with the assistance of Microsoft software. "

u need a better source than "WIKIPEDIA"
 
Maybe you should keep quiet unless you can produce one that contradicts it?

Let me help you -- you won't find one (because they have it correct)!!! :p DishPlayer came AFTER TiVo.

Dishplayer did come after TIVO. It was part of WebTV which had a DVR before TIVO and released its version after TIVO. WEBTV is owned by Microsoft. The WEBTV DVR is not part of the current DISH current DVR.
 
Dishplayer did come after TIVO. It was part of WebTV which had a DVR before TIVO and released its version after TIVO. WEBTV is owned by Microsoft. The WEBTV DVR is not part of the current DISH current DVR.
WebTV's DVR (first named "Personal TV") was debuted at the 1999 CES -- therefore it came a year after TiVo.

Web Television Development Timeline

1995-96 - Steve Perlman, Bruce Leak and Phil Goldman founded what would be later be WebTV Networks.

1996 - WebTV was invented in 1996 by Diba Inc (Steve Perlman) and Zenith Electronics.

1997 - NetChannel is the first Web-enhanced television service available to consumers in Europe. It would later be bought by AOLTV.

1998 - Microsoft's Windows 98 includes the application "WebTV for Windows". It's a type of Interactive Program Guide and in many respects is quite different from MSNTV. WebTV for Windows uses ActiveX to display conventional television shows and an HTML browser to present interactive content for interactive shows.

1999 - In January 1999, WebTV Networks, Inc. and EchoStar Communications Corp. announced the WebTV Personal TV service for Satellite.

2000 - Microsoft WebTV Networks (now MSNTV) and UltimateTV® service offered an integrated subscription. This very impressive service offered Interactive Television, Internet access, digital video recording and more.

2000 - AOL launches its AOLTV Web TV services. It was discontinued (to new subscribers) in 2002.
 
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Maybe you should keep quiet unless you can produce one that contradicts it?

Let me help you -- you won't find one (because they have it correct)!!! :p DishPlayer came AFTER TiVo.

DishPlayer was released to the market BEFORE TiVo.

Sure mock ups of Tivo and Replay were shown at CES... speaking of that where the hell is that new DIRECTV TIVO?
 

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