I get my local HD OTA, they look much better than Dish Networks HD, and I can get all Milwaukee and Green Bay WI. HD locals with it. I don't lose them in bad weather like I lose satellite. Especially the 129 sat. which is almost worthless when there is much more than a sprinkle in the sky. In the first year that I have had Dish I have had to have my HD DVR replaced (with another 18 month commitment) and my dish replaced just to get their HD package and was told that when HD locals came on line that I would be all set. Then they said that they would be added this year and that turned out to be a lie. Now it sounds like it may mean installing yet another dish just to get what I was told I would get with a Dish 1000 when I upgraded from a Super Dish. I could care less if I ever get local HD from Dish. You can't trust them to do anything they tell you they are going to do. If you can get HD locals over the air I would do that. At least you will not have to rely on their poorly positioned satellites for reception. Besides OTA is FREE and doesn't require a dish upgrade or any type of commitment to Dish or any other provider.