Besides, if this were an absolute rule, Charlie would have seen to it that the software (used by CSR and CEO@echostar) would NEVER allow it, just as the software won't allow all manor of "business rules" to be broken at the CSR level. I believe those who claim of having more than 4 leased tuners, although it is relatively rare. If one is an AEP, and buy lots of PPV's and subscribe to who knows what else (specialty sports series or channels or those expensive internationals--a bill like $170 to $200 a month), Charlie aint gonna lose you over an additional tuner lease or two because he is still making good money on that. Now, if you are below AEP, perhaps at the bottom tier, then your chances of Chucky willing to pay for you additional tuners goes down as it does cost him too much money. If you're a whale, Charlie will bend-over for you. 'nuff said.