Dish Network Terminates More Retailers

[Scott Greczkowski]

DISH NETWORK TERMINATES RETAILERS​

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. – Oct. 3, 2008 – DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH) announced today that its wholly owned subsidiary, DISH Network L.L.C., has terminated the following retailers, who the Company believes have engaged in illegal activity including fraud and misrepresentation when establishing customer accounts for DISH Network® service:
·Dish TV, Inc.
·Cyberworks Software, Inc.
·STVR Entertainment, Inc. (dba Dish & Direct Satellite)
·Powersat USA, Inc.

DISH Network L.L.C. does not tolerate illegal activity and will take action against any retailer that it believes has engaged in any form of fraud or misrepresentation in its dealings with DISH Network L.L.C.

 

[Van]

It sure took them an awful long time to get rid of Dish TV Inc, they were right up there with VMC satellite with pulling the address change scam when I was working for Dish.

 

[damjr]

This is just the tip of the iceberg !!! Watch what happens over the next 4 months.

Just a heads up to all you end users out there. If you're thinking about "moving", or you're an existing customer thinking of becoming a "new" customer just to get new hardware or the new promotion, you better think again.

THIS IS ALL COMING TO AN END !!

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Yes it is, there will be alot more dealers named over the next few months. Its been a long time coming for a lot of these dealers.

 

[rogerpl]

oops- I was just "moved"

 

[ALLTHINGS]

Guess we can expect dishstore to be next?

 

[damjr]

Yes it is, there will be alot more dealers named over the next few months. Its been a long time coming for a lot of these dealers.

After it's all said and done this could effect about half the dealer base. Looks like unemployment is going to go up some more in Q4.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Guess we can expect dishstore to be next?

Nope, Claude runs a tight ship and works very closely with Dish Network. I am proud of what Claude has done with DishStore!

 

[Jim S.]

This is just the tip of the iceberg !!! Watch what happens over the next 4 months.

Just a heads up to all you end users out there. If you're thinking about "moving", or you're an existing customer thinking of becoming a "new" customer just to get new hardware or the new promotion, you better think again.

THIS IS ALL COMING TO AN END !!

And you feel compelled to defend Dish treating its existing customers like garbage why exactly?

 

[tastim]

And you feel compelled to defend Dish treating its existing customers like garbage why exactly?

That is a seperate issue. The issue being dealt with is fraud. Fraud is not the way to fix the problem you mention. Fraud costs the company a LOT of money, and results in less funds for Dish to allocate to existing customer promotion programs.

The only way to fix the attitude Dish has towards existing customers is to cancel, and make it very clear why you are cancelling. Going around the system actually hurts your message because it makes corporate think they are actually gaining more subscribers than they are so they think the problem isn't really THAT bad.

 

[ccash]

Nope, Claude runs a tight ship and works very closely with Dish Network. I am proud of what Claude has done with DishStore!

I will second that!

I have had some recent dealings with Claude and I must say he is a straight shooter, a man of his word!

 

[damjr]

That is a seperate issue. The issue being dealt with is fraud. Fraud is not the way to fix the problem you mention. Fraud costs the company a LOT of money, and results in less funds for Dish to allocate to existing customer promotion programs.

The only way to fix the attitude Dish has towards existing customers is to cancel, and make it very clear why you are cancelling. Going around the system actually hurts your message because it makes corporate think they are actually gaining more subscribers than they are so they think the problem isn't really THAT bad.

Bingo !!! You hit the nail right on the head !!

 

[cparker]

OK, so if I'm actually, physically, honestly moving to a new house, does that qualify as a new customer install?

 

[jayn_j]

OK, so if I'm actually, physically, honestly moving to a new house, does that qualify as a new customer install?

No, but it does qualify you for some real promotions, such as dishmover.

 

[mthawki]

How would Dish be able to track down all of the subs that have "moved?" Is there an audit process they would follow? Seems like the resources that it would take to check on every sub that has a different billing and service address would be next to impossible.

 

[jayn_j]

This is just the tip of the iceberg !!! Watch what happens over the next 4 months.

Just a heads up to all you end users out there. If you're thinking about "moving", or you're an existing customer thinking of becoming a "new" customer just to get new hardware or the new promotion, you better think again.

THIS IS ALL COMING TO AN END !!

I wonder how this will affect the "moving" of the sort that doesn't affect DISH's bottom line. My feeling is that "moving" is fraud, but not against dish, and I have argued this in the past. However, DISH has turned a blind eye (and even a wink and a nudge) to the type of "moving" where the user just gets a different set of locals. I don't see that changing. The "moving" I think we are alking about is where Joe Blow "moves" to a new address in order to qualify for free equipment.

 

[mthawki]

Thank you for the moving "moving" clarification!

 

[ALLTHINGS]

YOU ARE RIGHT

I have had some recent dealings with Claude and I must say he is a straight shooter, a man of his word!

The mexico accounts will agree.

 

[jayn_j]

The mexico accounts will agree.

OK, care to explain what exactly you have against Dishstore? They have always been first rate and totally above board in all of my interactions with them. This is your second vague slam at Claude. If you have a beef, step forward.

OTOH, I took a look at your posting content. With 20 posts, it isn't hard. Not one of those 20 posts had any real content to them, so I guess i don't really expect much substance in any future repy.

 

[ALLTHINGS]

He is a great American, and would make an excellent President. We are losing many of our overseas customers to him.