Echo II gone?! (CONFIRMED) (Echostar 2)
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According to that filing it died two months early
It said minimum life and listed some qualifiers. Look Elwaylite made an honest mistake on the expected life. No big deal.
Maybe Echostar can buy DirecTV 1-R since DirecTV is losing the 72.5 slot anyways.
My problem with EA is the wasted bandwidth. I hate seeing all those national HD channels being sent twice.
It may be unavoidable.
A more efficient system would give everyone 1 dish for 110/119/129 (nationals), and a 2nd (wing) dish for locals.
Unfortunately, for marketing purposes, it seems the general public wants a 1 dish system + locals.
It may be unavoidable.
A more efficient system would give everyone 1 dish for 110/119/129 (nationals), and a 2nd (wing) dish for locals.
Unfortunately, for marketing purposes, it seems the general public wants a 1 dish system + locals.
I'm sorry Scott, but you sound like a politician.
This thread is one of the least intelligent discussions in the history of DBS.
I'm not sure that closing discussion is the right move, but certainly I've seen more intelligent discussions of Britney Spears than of E*2.
Nothing anyone said in the thread made any sense, nor did any statement add one iota to our understanding of the situation. Most of the thread caused an increase of disinformation....
I still don't understand why they didn't just do 105, 110, 119 or 110, 119, 121 ??
Wouldn't that work for everyone more consistantly?
Wouldn't that work for everyone more consistantly?
Actually, I thought the FCC or Congress had dictated that they can't use a 2nd dish for locals.
But when you made your statement on the podcast, the satellites you were referring to are the same "space junk", of which one just died.
I'm sorry Scott, but you sound like a politician.
This thread is one of the least intelligent discussions in the history of DBS.
I'm not sure that closing discussion is the right move, but certainly I've seen more intelligent discussions of Britney Spears than of E*2.
Nothing anyone said in the thread made any sense, nor did any statement add one iota to our understanding of the situation. Most of the thread caused an increase of disinformation....
Your comments are not conducive to anything, kstuart. It makes one wonder, just what are your intentions...? You're not respectful of Scott's relationship(s) with Dish/Echostar, nor mindful of how and when he's able to comment. Remember, without his established connections, there would be much we wouldn't be privy to.
If you want to live in the world of denial, please do so on your own. Newbies have a hard enough time trying to comprehend discussions here, and you don't help matters, one iota.
To debate, exchange ideas, observations and data, does not promote disinformation.
I don't know if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, but you're being exceptionally negative.
In other words, don't shoot the messenger.
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Okay, we'll do that so long as you don't put someone down for making a statement that's later proven to be true ! Just because you apologized later for your error doesn't negate what you originally said.
Locals have to be at one orbital location, they got in trouble for putting unpopular locals on 148
You are correct. It was more of a reaction based on patterns from first time posters. I should give them the benefit until they actually show that their intentions were wrong.
Not true. One can realize they were wrong and admit too it, thus negating what was said originally.
I keep saying that Dish Network is going to have to PROVE itself when it comes to its birds.
It's all the locals in a city need to be all on one dish. They got into problem by putting the major locals on 110/119 and then putting the secondary (spanish/shopping/relegious) on a wing position. Those local stations complained that people with Dish couldn't get them because Dish wasn't installed unless someone asked for it.
I'm sorry Scott, but you sound like a politician.
This thread is one of the least intelligent discussions in the history of DBS.
I'm not sure that closing discussion is the right move, but certainly I've seen more intelligent discussions of Britney Spears than of E*2.
Nothing anyone said in the thread made any sense, nor did any statement add one iota to our understanding of the situation. Most of the thread caused an increase of disinformation....
I am James Long and that post is not allowed here I am going to delete this post
Oh my god what a nightmare for a second their I thought I was Jame Long I am glad that is over.
That is the difference between DBSTALK and here your post stayed while at that other site your post would have been deleted.
IIRC, the requirement is that all locals must be receivable on one dish. There can be two or even more dishes, but all locals must be on just one dish. I believe Dish put major locals on one sat, and "lesser" locals on another, making them less likely to be watched, as was alluded to earlier.
Right basically you can't give some locals preference over others. But if would no matter if they were all at one location (they could be split at 11 at 119) or if they were all at some wing that required another dish.
Look at it this way...
Dish Needed 3 Satellites to make Eastern Arc work, two of them no longer exist. AMC14 and Echostar 2. This is another reason why I say that they should scrap the Eastern Arc Project.
Also another thing to look at is the satellites delivering HD at 61.5 and 129 are on their last leg. Anytime one or both of them could die at anytime. Could you imagine the uproar if one of them died?
Dish has some big problems on their hands at the moment they need to concentrate on keeping the core services running, to add a second clone of its main service is unrealistic to me at the moment, and really does nothing to increase the income of Dish Network.
Dish Needed 3 Satellites to make Eastern Arc work, two of them no longer exist. AMC14 and Echostar 2. This is another reason why I say that they should scrap the Eastern Arc Project.
Also another thing to look at is the satellites delivering HD at 61.5 and 129 are on their last leg. Anytime one or both of them could die at anytime. Could you imagine the uproar if one of them died?
Dish has some big problems on their hands at the moment they need to concentrate on keeping the core services running, to add a second clone of its main service is unrealistic to me at the moment, and really does nothing to increase the income of Dish Network.
Just being realistic of what I would do if I were in charge at Dish. 
So far the word coming out of Dish is they haven't even thought about EA yet, they didn't expect E2 to die.
So far the word coming out of Dish is they haven't even thought about EA yet, they didn't expect E2 to die.
