Fear of Poles

cyberham

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Perhaps this is why I've never installed a pole for a satellite dish.

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k4otl

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That's pretty messed up, looks like the anchors were set for a different size pole/base plate that's been changed out.

Base plates are the best way to do it, and if one is afraid of missing anchor bolt holes, just set 1 anchor and use post-installed epoxy anchors w/ 3" or more embedment for the other 3. (I'm a structural engineer so I deal with stuff like this all the time). Ideally, you'd use a plywood template when you set your anchor bolts, that's the best way.

I was going to have a local fab shop make me a pole with base plate, but it was cheaper to just buy a 12' long piece of pipe and bury 4.5' in a 12" dia hole filled with concrete. I had the 6' piece of pipe from where I cut down the dish at the previous owners', and so if I move I'll just cut down the pipe and weld in the middle, re-set it in a new hole with concrete, and call it a day. Biggest thing is keeping things plumb while the concrete cures.
 
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In my dreams. If I can dig down even 1 foot without hitting solid granite, I'm excited. We are safe from mud slides if torrential rain ever comes. Our hill isn't moving due to rock. As for digging a hole, good luck with that.
Dig down to the solid granite, drill anchor holes with a diamond bit, and epoxy/cement threaded rods in the holes. Spin nuts and washers down far enough to allow the rods to stick up through the base plate a couple of inches. Set the base plate in place and use the bottom nuts to level it, locking it with the top nuts. Done.
 
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Dig down to the solid granite, drill anchor holes with a diamond bit, and epoxy/cement threaded rods in the holes. Spin nuts and washers down far enough to allow the rods to stick up through the base plate a couple of inches. Set the base plate in place and use the bottom nuts to level it, locking it with the top nuts. Done.
Very good advice. I'd do 4-6" embed since it's in-situ rock as opposed to concrete
 
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In my dreams. If I can dig down even 1 foot without hitting solid granite, I'm excited. We are safe from mud slides if torrential rain ever comes. Our hill isn't moving due to rock. As for digging a hole, good luck with that.
Dynamite?
 

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As long as we're on the subject of poles, I acquired an Ajax H-H mount I have to clean up but it needs a 3 1/2" O.D. pole. Do I need schedule 80 or will a schedule 40 work?
edit: Oh, it's for a 10 foot mesh dish in case you didn't guess.
 
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I am not an expert. Not knowledgeable in this particular field. But I would never use 40 for anything even semi-structural.

And I'd be very careful with 80.

Metal.
 
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As long as we're on the subject of poles, I acquired an Ajax H-H mount I have to clean up but it needs a 3 1/2" O.D. pole. Do I need schedule 80 or will a schedule 40 work?
edit: Oh, it's for a 10 foot mesh dish in case you didn't guess.
A 40 will work, but an 80 should really be used. Though IF it's a mesh dish as you said, a 40 should be fine as long as it isn't more than 6' above ground. Should be at least 4' deep also.
 

clucas

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Thanks for the input. I currently have a temporary 10 foot fixed dish with the metal pipe but with the dish and mount covering the pole, I can't measure the thickness of the wall. I'm guessing it is "80".
 

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Dig down to the solid granite, drill anchor holes with a diamond bit, and epoxy/cement threaded rods in the holes. Spin nuts and washers down far enough to allow the rods to stick up through the base plate a couple of inches. Set the base plate in place and use the bottom nuts to level it, locking it with the top nuts. Done.
what if there's a big storm that topples the dish and the mountain with it? :)
 

k4otl

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As long as we're on the subject of poles, I acquired an Ajax H-H mount I have to clean up but it needs a 3 1/2" O.D. pole. Do I need schedule 80 or will a schedule 40 work?
edit: Oh, it's for a 10 foot mesh dish in case you didn't guess.
Sch 40 is fine, it's what I used for my 10' mesh. Admittedly it's a little more flexible than I'd like, but flexibility is not weakness. Steel can flex way more than you think before failing. For dish use flexibility is not a good thing (particularly on Ku :) )Really whatever fits the 3.5" OD best is what should be used.
 
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Sch 40 is fine, it's what I used for my 10' mesh. Admittedly it's a little more flexible than I'd like, but flexibility is not weakness. Steel can flex way more than you think before failing. For dish use flexibility is not a good thing (particularly on Ku :) )Really whatever fits the 3.5" OD best is what should be used.
Throw some rebar down the pole add concrete, the flex will stop.
 

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