Free Local TV Streaming

Discussion in 'Cord Cutters Club (Internet TV)' started by ncted, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. ncted

    ncted Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Posts:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    778
    Location:
    Durham, NC
  2. comfortably_numb

    comfortably_numb Dogs have owners, cats have staff
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Posts:
    3,934
    Likes Received:
    3,212
    Location:
    Missouri/Kansas
    ncted likes this.
  3. ncted

    ncted Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Posts:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    778
    Location:
    Durham, NC
    I'm surprised there haven't been more nonprofit ventures like this on the Internet.
     
  4. harshness

    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Posts:
    13,614
    Likes Received:
    1,383
    Location:
    Salem, OR
    Since the service is somewhat sports oriented (at least in name), I expect the pro sports leagues as well as the pay providers to weigh in and I'd bet that they will be $trongly oppo$ed.

    If it were truly local programming and not in direct competition with the incumbents (including the leagues themselves), it might be a different story.
     
    andy_horton and navychop like this.
  5. navychop

    navychop Member of the Month - July 2014!
    Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2005
    Posts:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    9,453
    Location:
    Northern VA
    It may be “non-profit” but the folks running it aren’t. So they take their “profits” as salaries rather than distributions.


    Sent from my iPhone using the SatelliteGuys app!
     
    comfortably_numb likes this.
  6. comfortably_numb

    comfortably_numb Dogs have owners, cats have staff
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Posts:
    3,934
    Likes Received:
    3,212
    Location:
    Missouri/Kansas
    I think the technical term in this scenario would be “stipend?”
     
  7. ncted

    ncted Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Posts:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    778
    Location:
    Durham, NC
    That is not profit. That is compensation. If they were also shareholders and received dividends, then they would be getting profits.
     
  8. navychop

    navychop Member of the Month - July 2014!
    Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2005
    Posts:
    44,271
    Likes Received:
    9,453
    Location:
    Northern VA
    The quotes indicate I was speaking loosely.

    I am, after all, an accountant. Or as I prefer to say, bean counter.


    Sent from my iPhone using the SatelliteGuys app!
     
    comfortably_numb likes this.
  9. harshness

    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Posts:
    13,614
    Likes Received:
    1,383
    Location:
    Salem, OR
    Hiding behind the "secondary retransmission" isn't going to save their bacon as they're not broadcasting in the sense covered by the ruling. They would also have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that their "geofencing" was 100% effective and that's not possible with several VPN services offering NYC and Dallas addresses.

    The dissenting SCOTUS judges were careful that the Aereo decision only applied to Aereo but a lot of the underpinnings would apply to anyone seeking to transcode to the Internet domain.
     
    andy_horton and comfortably_numb like this.
  10. ncted

    ncted Topic Starter SatelliteGuys Pro
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Posts:
    2,382
    Likes Received:
    778
    Location:
    Durham, NC
    Sadly, geofencing is 80-90% effective at best. That said, I can get stations from the next DMA over with a big enough antenna.
     
  11. harshness

    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Posts:
    13,614
    Likes Received:
    1,383
    Location:
    Salem, OR
    And there's nothing unlawful about that. This isn't Canada where the gubmint dictates what you can and cannot watch.

    The great equalizer for geofencing is VPN services that allow you to "buy in" to other markets and while not illegal, it presents a relatively easy avenue into any market you want and it is very difficult for providers to prevent.

    I expect that this is why some services are only available on devices that have some manner of GPS capability as that's much harder to work around.
     
  12. comfortably_numb

    comfortably_numb Dogs have owners, cats have staff
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Posts:
    3,934
    Likes Received:
    3,212
    Location:
    Missouri/Kansas
    It’s not necessarily that difficult to work around. Any jailbroken iOS device or rooted Android device has the capability to spoof a GPS location. I keep a rooted Android phone around for just that reason.
     
  13. mr3p

    mr3p SatelliteGuys Pro
    Pub Member / Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Posts:
    1,025
    Likes Received:
    104
    Location:
    West
    Is there an Android TV or Roku app yet?
     
    #13 mr3p, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:10 PM
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2018 at 8:51 PM
  14. Jhon69

    Jhon69 SatelliteGuys Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2006
    Posts:
    3,345
    Likes Received:
    45
    Location:
    Central San Joaquin Valley,CA.
    Roku has The Roku Channel which is setup similar to the way Netflix is and it is Free,all you need is a Roku.
    When I first got my Roku Stick + I could not believe all the free stuff on the internet,and there are apps you have to pay for also.
     
  15. harshness

    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

    Joined:
    May 5, 2007
    Posts:
    13,614
    Likes Received:
    1,383
    Location:
    Salem, OR
    Locast appears to be browser only at this time.

    Producing and maintaining a flashy mobile app (or a Roku app) isn't cheap.
     

***

Separate names with a comma.

More...