foghorn2 said:Why don't you drop the HD channels Dish offers you and go AT-60 or whatever is the min and you can still get the HD OTA with their box?
Petrovich said:1. The answer is in my post, pay attention to what I've written if you haven't done so yet;
2. The decision on what to watch is based on my family's preferences, not on your or anybody else's advice.
No offense fohhorn2, but when he said that HD DVDs are a direct competitor to DISH HD you should have known you shouldn't pursue a conversation without hitting yourself in the head with a hammer first.foghorn2 said:Great, then I guess you are content in your decisions. I guess you are all set and do not need our help and you will no longer be bringing up HD-Lite. Have a great day!
I sooo want FIOS to be a viable choice and bring competition. I just don't know when everyone agreed that Cable is Evil and TELCOS are our new savior.Paradox-SJ said:Our only other hope are projects like FIOS/Lightspeed.
I'll give Ben the message.Princess Leia said:Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi; you're my only hope.
dslate69 said:I sooo want FIOS to be a viable choice and bring competition. I just don't know when everyone agreed that Cable is Evil and TELCOS are our new savior.
I'll give Ben the message.
dslate69 said:No offense fohhorn2, but when he said that HD DVDs are a direct competitor to DISH HD you should have known you shouldn't pursue a conversation without hitting yourself in the head with a hammer first.
foghorn2 said:HD-Lightweights are those who want pure speck max HD channels with less channels in the process. The lightweights refers to the fact that they are so fanatical about this, but too weak and lightweighted to quit Dish or Direct and go to cable to get exactly what they want instead they complain about it all day. Thus HD-Lightweights are officially what these people with these attributes shall be called
If you can't understand it as a business decision let me hit you with your own emotional based question.Smith said:the sob really making money from Dish on each his post
I can't belive normal subsriber/member here will methodically put down other persons whus intention make HD channels better ( read restore back PQ ) for all HD subscribers
WTF ?
I never claimed that any of the polls that I linked to are scientific or even representative of actual consumer opinion. It was simply offered in contrast to the 98% of people would be upset that was thrown out earlier.dslate69 said:As long as you believe the forum dwellers are the majority of DISH subs your conclusions will always be flawed. Not to mention, I like a good debate most that are content with how Charlie is handling the HD do not take part in those polls. The outspoken minority scew many polls.
We don't really know that, now do we? Unless you have access to internal Dish financial data.dslate69 said:Obviously DISH is gaining more subs from HD-Lite than losing them. That is what I mean about business decisions. If you can't admit that we have come to an impass.
Great argument.dslate69 said:Evidently none of you that are so upset have left DISH, so this supports the contention that from a business decision HD-Lite it working. It is your weakest argument that everyone is being decieved and that they would all be upset if the ones in the know like yourself are content enough to stay what makes you think any other sub would have a different take.
Come on admit it... You love HD-Lite, that's why you are still my DISH brother.
Based on what? The tiny discussion that's going on here? Seems like a case of premature self-congratulation. (Although I'm not a doctor, so please consult with your physician.)foghorn2 said:The fat lady has sung and the HD-Lightweights are loosing the argument that we willing subscribers to DishHD should loose channels for their (minority) benefit. :
Drum roll please!
How does that follow? Look at the polls I linked to, or do a search on the AVS forum. There are a lot more than 60 people that would prefer true HD to higher amounts of compromised, redundant, and/or mediocre programming.foghorn2 said:There are only 60 members on the HD-Lightwieghts StopHdlite website forum.
60 Members on the HD-Lightweights side in their eyes constitute a majority of Dish customers in their eyes
Bingo.Petrovich said:Here’s what I think of all of this.
Dish is currently in the process of testing how aggressively they can downrez the HD channels. They will go down to as low resolution as most of HD subscribers are going to accept. As long as people keep their HD packages Dish are happy.
If that were true, why do they both deny that they're doing it?Paradox-SJ said:I'll bet ya that if D* or E* both came and said openly that they were downrezzing that no one (the majority) would even care.