you'd piss off alot of people who dont have their receivers hooked to a phone line because they dont have a landline. According to your "theory" you need a phone line hooked up at all times
Is Dish Network's card swap working?
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you'd piss off alot of people who dont have their receivers hooked to a phone line because they dont have a landline. According to your "theory" you need a phone line hooked up at all times
another way to do it.. when you actiavte your receiver id is stored, when your watching tv a data stream of all recid's that have have an acitive subscription are allowed to watch tv
um...that's how its done NOW
How about this...Dish secures their system...problem solved
um...that's how its done NOW
How about this...Dish secures their system...problem solved
Geez. You'd think that Charlie is just made of money.
well he keeps upgrading his cards on every single customer, once every 2-3 years. so youd think he was made of money.
in the last 3m they took a 54 drop in profit, only 90mill down from 200mil.
I think they could aford to fix their system once and for all.
in the last 3m they took a 54 drop in profit, only 90mill down from 200mil.
I think they could aford to fix their system once and for all.
why dont they get a deal with the kgb?
i think personally think charlie did it on purpose so he could save money
i think personally think charlie did it on purpose so he could save money
Do you think it would be hard for a hacker to change a non subed receiver id into a subbed one? The encrypyion is broken and fully available for hackers to fix anything that dish thows at them in a matter of hours. They can spoof anything into the card or the receveirs (even subbed cards and boxes) in order for it to work again. The only options dish has is to change encryption or change out all receivers to a proprietary type box similar to motorola. Changing all boxes out could bankrupt them so, the only viable option is what they are currently doing.
How about this...Dish secures their system...problem solved
Exactly. Such a simple solution... D* did it, DCII services such as Starchoice never had to worry about it (DCII has been secure from the get-go), so why can't they?
I'm sorry, but their problem is.... THEIR problem. They can't cry foul and try to get legitimate gear outlawed because of it.
Indeed. They choose a cheap encryption provider then try to blame everbody else.
Bell in Canada was worse in that they managed to get the RCMP involved. Tens of millions of taxpayer dollars have been spent fighting pirates because Bell cheaped out on encryption too.
If enough people used the DCII encryption then it would get cracked. Maybe the owner of DC does not want it sold to a larger company because of this.
I would have thought that when they started going over to MPEG-4 that they would have went with a different type of encryption altogether.
Eventually they figure out the weaknesses of the security and put new things in place to prevent them from happening again (at least for a while) but if it is man made then it can be broken.
I would have thought that when they started going over to MPEG-4 that they would have went with a different type of encryption altogether.
Eventually they figure out the weaknesses of the security and put new things in place to prevent them from happening again (at least for a while) but if it is man made then it can be broken.
There are many DCII based systems, the encryption is very secure and they already have a back up if ever needed, DCII is used in many home cable boxes also for Star choice and for 4dtv and for HITS.
Motorola will make receivers for anyone who wants to pay for it, Bell should have switched to power vu and left Dish on there own.
Who had the extreme example of codes, where they changed hourly, regardless of if they were hacked??
That would be funny if dish had a rolling 50 codes.. the hackers could watch one hour out of every 2+ days.. lol
That would be funny if dish had a rolling 50 codes.. the hackers could watch one hour out of every 2+ days.. lol
There's also this to consider:
www.scatmag.com/intnews.html
"NDS has been ordered by a US court to pay Echostar $8.3 million in legal fees and costs stemming from a lawsuit over hacked smart cards.
"Dish had sued NDS for hacking DISH Smart cards and putting up the solution on the internet for distribution. An NDS employee also allegedly turned approver, confirming DISH TV's claim.
"A jury in May had awarded a mere token $1,591 in damages to Dish, which had sought more than $1 billion. The jury opined that NDS wasn't liable for a 2000 Internet posting with information on how to hack Dish's access cards.
"Now, Judge David O. Carter ruled that due to the size and scope of the trial (5 years, more than 80 depositions from witnesses in Europe and Israel), the award of attorney's fees is justified. "
Who is NDS? They provide conditional access technology for DirecTv.
Sort of puts a different slant on things, no?
www.scatmag.com/intnews.html
"NDS has been ordered by a US court to pay Echostar $8.3 million in legal fees and costs stemming from a lawsuit over hacked smart cards.
"Dish had sued NDS for hacking DISH Smart cards and putting up the solution on the internet for distribution. An NDS employee also allegedly turned approver, confirming DISH TV's claim.
"A jury in May had awarded a mere token $1,591 in damages to Dish, which had sought more than $1 billion. The jury opined that NDS wasn't liable for a 2000 Internet posting with information on how to hack Dish's access cards.
"Now, Judge David O. Carter ruled that due to the size and scope of the trial (5 years, more than 80 depositions from witnesses in Europe and Israel), the award of attorney's fees is justified. "
Who is NDS? They provide conditional access technology for DirecTv.
Sort of puts a different slant on things, no?
They done a lot more than $8 million in damages to Dish Network. Not only that but wouldn't that hurt themselves since people would end up hacking Dish Network instead of purchasing DirecTv programming?
Actually Dish continue pay that price, what they did avoid to pay for pickup more secure technology when they bought part of Kudelski (Nagrastar).
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