Wanted to provide an update to the above. Long story short, everything is finally up and running. Installer came out installed a 110/119/129 dish, could not get the locals to come in. After a dozen calls I FINALLY reached someone at dish that said hmmmm - lets try turning on the locals on your programming. I was like what? So they did and locals started to come in on one tv only. They could not get them to work on the other wallys and left (note - all tv's have wallys on them. So I installed a EA 1000.2 (my camping dish)on the rear of the house and boom all is coming in AND am getting HD channels versus the dish DN installed did not. The installer was very nice and stated Dish turned off millions of users and he said to say he's busy right now is an understatement. Saga is over I hope. I have a few more grey hairs and can finally watch the evening news. Have a Great Weekend Everyone and Thank You for the responses.