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jfast

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:confused: The equipment I am working with is (all new), the viewsat extreme, HH90 rotor, fortec star FC 90 dish and INVACOM quad polar legacy QPH-031 with an ultrasat SW41 switch.

I have been researching and still can not find any answers!! Here's my problem:

I am having a problem with the roror HH90 pointed south. When I try to go to SAT 119 and 110 it moves a few degrees west and then goes back to south and keeps doing this. It does this in user and installer settings. I need the laitude and longitude for each satillite to program into the USALS. I have restored defaults in the viewsat extreme and when I go back, it does the same as before. I can't find a program or anything that will give me lat. and long. for each sat. on KU so I can scan all sats. and let the dish move by itself. My lat. is 33.4 and long. is 90.8.
I have been working on this for four days non-stop, any help would be greatly appreciated!! **I can manually move it to echostar 9 121.0W and get channels**

Thanks, Jfast
 

Mr Tony

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closed on suspicion...if the OP wants to PM me with what he is trying to pick up, I'd be more than happy to unlock :)
 

Mr Tony

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since your true south is Galaxy 11 at 91 degrees, I would aim for that first.

The elevation of the motor is 90-your latitude
Then you use the dish to peak on Galaxy 11

Here is a transponder that will work for picking up signals
12060 freq
V polarity
26700 symbol rate

This should be programmed into the receiver already. Make sure you look for quality...signal strength doesnt mean anything.
 

PSB

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Here are all the angles from your location, remember the elevations below are WITHOUT a motor, also skew will not be needed when using a motor as the dish tilts and skews its self.

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         Latitude 33° 24.000'N Longitude 90° 48.000'W

                       Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
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           Thor 2/3 Intelsat 10    1.0W  90.1  89.4 -8.4 -56.6
                               
                       Amos 1/2    4.0W  91.8  91.1 -6.0 -56.6
                               
                Atlantic Bird 3    5.0W  92.3  91.6 -5.2 -56.5
                               
                Nilesat 101/102    7.0W  93.4  92.7 -3.5 -56.4
                               
     Telecom 2D/Atlantic Bird 2    8.0W  94.0  93.3 -2.7 -56.4
                               
                     Express A3   11.0W  95.7  95.0 -0.2 -56.2
                               
                     Telstar 12   15.0W  97.9  97.2  3.1 -55.8
                               
                   Intelsat 901   18.0W  99.7  99.0  5.6 -55.4
                               
                          NSS 7   22.0W 102.1 101.3  9.0 -54.7
                               
                   Intelsat 905   24.5W 103.6 102.9 11.1 -54.2
                               
                   Intelsat 907   27.5W 105.5 104.8 13.6 -53.6
                               
                  Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 107.1 106.4 15.7 -52.9
                               
                   Intelsat 801   31.5W 108.1 107.4 16.9 -52.5
                               
                   Intelsat 903   34.5W 110.2 109.5 19.4 -51.6
                               
                    AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 112.3 111.6 21.9 -50.6
                               
                        NSS 806   40.5W 114.6 113.9 24.3 -49.4
                               
                      Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 116.5 115.8 26.3 -48.3
                               
                         Pas 1R   45.0W 118.2 117.5 27.9 -47.4
                               
                   Intelsat 705   50.0W 122.5 121.8 31.8 -44.7
                               
                   Intelsat 707   53.0W 125.4 124.7 34.1 -42.9
                               
                   Intelsat 805   55.5W 127.9 127.2 35.9 -41.2
                               
                          Pas 9   58.0W 130.5 129.8 37.7 -39.4
                               
                       Amazonas   61.0W 133.9 133.2 39.7 -37.0
                               
                     EchoStar 3   61.5W 134.4 133.7 40.1 -36.6
                               
                      Rainbow 1   61.5W 134.4 133.7 40.1 -36.6
                               
               Estrela do Sul 1   63.0W 136.2 135.5 41.1 -35.3
                               
                   Brasilsat B2   65.0W 138.7 138.0 42.3 -33.4
                               
                   Brasilsat B1   70.0W 145.4 144.7 45.2 -28.3
                               
                       Nahuel 1   71.8W 148.0 147.3 46.1 -26.3
                               
                      DirecTV 1   72.5W 149.0 148.3 46.4 -25.5
                               
                          AMC 6   72.0W 148.3 147.6 46.2 -26.0
                               
                          SBS 6   74.0W 151.3 150.6 47.2 -23.7
                               
                     Echostar 4   77.0W 156.0 155.3 48.4 -19.9
                               
                          AMC 5   79.0W 159.2 158.5 49.1 -17.2
                               
                        Nimiq 2   82.0W 164.3 163.6 50.0 -13.1
                               
                          AMC-9   83.0W 166.0 165.3 50.3 -11.6
                               
                   Brasilsat B3   84.0W 167.8 167.1 50.5 -10.2
                               
                          AMC 2   85.0W 169.5 168.8 50.7  -8.7
                               
                          AMC 3   87.0W 173.1 172.4 50.9  -5.7
                               
                           IA-8   89.0W 176.7 176.0 51.1  -2.7
                               
                      Galaxy 11   91.0W 180.4 179.7 51.2   0.3
                               
                      Nimiq 1/3   91.0W 180.4 179.7 51.2   0.3
                               
                   Brasilsat B4   92.0W 182.2 181.5 51.1   1.8
                               
                      Telstar 6   93.0W 184.0 183.3 51.1   3.3
                               
                      Galaxy 3C   95.0W 187.6 186.9 50.9   6.3
                               
                      Telstar 5   97.0W 191.2 190.5 50.6   9.3
                               
                      Galaxy 4R   99.0W 194.7 194.0 50.2  12.2
                               
                     Spaceway 2   99.2W 195.0 194.3 50.1  12.5
                               
                DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 198.1 197.4 49.6  15.0
                               
                          AMC 4  101.0W 198.1 197.4 49.6  15.0
                               
                     Spaceway 1  102.0W 199.8 199.1 49.3  16.4
                               
                          AMC 1  103.0W 201.4 200.7 49.0  17.8
                               
                         AMC 15  105.0W 204.7 204.0 48.3  20.4
                               
                      Anik F1/R  107.3W 208.3 207.6 47.3  23.3
                               
                      DirecTV 5  109.5W 211.6 210.9 46.3  25.9
                               
                     EchoStar 6  110.0W 212.3 211.6 46.0  26.5
                               
                     EchoStar 8  110.0W 212.3 211.6 46.0  26.5
                               
                        Anik F2  111.1W 213.9 213.2 45.4  27.8
                               
                  Solidaridad 2  113.0W 216.6 215.8 44.4  29.8
                               
                       SatMex 5  116.8W 221.5 220.8 42.2  33.6
                               
                     DirecTV 7s  119.0W 224.2 223.5 40.8  35.6
                               
                     EchoStar 7  119.0W 224.2 223.5 40.8  35.6
                               
          EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 226.6 225.9 39.5  37.3
                               
                     Galaxy 10R  123.0W 228.8 228.1 38.1  38.9
                               
                      Galaxy 14  125.0W 231.0 230.3 36.7  40.4
                               
                  Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 233.1 232.3 35.3  41.9
                               
 Intelsat Americas 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 235.0 234.3 33.8  43.2
                               
                         AMC 11  131.0W 236.9 236.2 32.3  44.4
                               
                   Galaxy 1R/15  133.0W 238.7 238.0 30.7  45.5
                               
                         AMC 10  135.0W 240.5 239.8 29.2  46.6
                               
                          AMC 7  137.0W 242.2 241.5 27.6  47.6
                               
                          AMC 8  139.0W 243.8 243.1 26.0  48.5
                               
                     EchoStar 1  148.0W 250.5 249.8 18.6  51.9
                               
                     EchoStar 2  148.0W 250.5 249.8 18.6  51.9

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Mr Tony

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dang
that'd be nice to have a 51 elevation for the true south (non motorized) setup:)

for the OP...you might want to try and pick up Galaxy 11 without a motor first so you know where to aim the dish
 

jfast

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Iceberg I,ll try it and get back with you, it will be a few hours before I can work on it . Thanks and Cheers to you
 

7720driver

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jfast, I'm not familiar with a Viewsat Extreme receiver or a Saab HH90 rotor, thus my chances of being able to help you are not the best.

I have no idea why, whenever you try to go to 110 or 119, your rotor moves west a little and then returns to center.

It sounds to me like you might be a little mixed up regarding how USALS works. First, you must enter the longitude and lattitude of your house. (You only have to do this once.) Once USALS knows this, it can calculate where to point the dish for any satellite location, such as the satellites at longitudes 110, 119, 105, 123, etc. Thus it has to know the position (longitude) of each satellite you want to receive. Your receiver probably came pre-programmed for most of the satellites you will be looking at. So, your receiver already knows the longitude of those satellites. If you want to view a satellite that is not pre-programmed into your receiver, then you'll have to enter it, giving it a name AND entering its longitude. Once you enter the longitude, USALS has all it needs to know in order to point to the satellite.

If in bolting the rotor to the pole, you do a great job of pointing the motor exactly straight south, and if your pole is perfectly plumb...and if you set your rotor's elevation accurately and you set your dish's elevation accurately..........then USALS can direct your rotor to accurately point to each satellite. But if any of that stuff is off a little, then USALS will be off enough for your signal to be less than maximum. If the signal is low on a satellite, then change the motor mode from "USALS" to DiSEqC...and you can then nudge the position a little east or west, in order to maximize the signal.

"How well the DiSEqC mode works for you" is a measure of how well you set up your dish. If you can't get a signal by pointing your dish with DiSEqC, then you need to improve your motor elevation/dish elevation/rotor body straight south on the pole. By far the greatest source of error is in getting the rotor body bolted to the pole straight south. Generally the best way to do this is by having USALS point to your southern-most satellite. You live at longitude 90.8. Satellite G11 is at 91.0. Very close! So close that, if your rotor is in the center postion to begin with, it will move west only an extremely small amount (if at all) in order to get to the G11 position. Once you do this, then you rotate the rotor body on the mounting pole to the postion of maximum signal for G11. But you must be sure that the signal you are receiving is from G11, and not an adjacent satellite. Do a blindscan and compare the results to Lyngsat. Once you are sure you're on G11, securely tighten the clamps holding the rotor body to the mounting pole. Your rotor body is now exactly straight south on the mounting pole.

Good luck. :)
 
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scottc98

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might want to try locking to nimiq 1/3 first. Circular feeds seem a little easier to lock on to and its basically the same location as G11.
 

jfast

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Well it's darkthirty here in Mississippi so I will have to work on it Saturday . Thanks
for the info , will get back to you guys tomorrow. Cheers
 

jfast

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Well had no luck with the Viewsat, kicked it out the door. Now I have a Fortec Lifetime Classic NA ,works great.!!! Thanks for the help guys.:)
 

WyrTwister

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jfast said:
Well had no luck with the Viewsat, kicked it out the door. Now I have a Fortec Lifetime Classic NA ,works great.!!! Thanks for the help guys.:)


I would love to have a ViewSat . Feel free to PM me if you want to give it a good home .

Wyr
 

WyrTwister

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Iceberg said:
dang
that'd be nice to have a 51 elevation for the true south (non motorized) setup:)

for the OP...you might want to try and pick up Galaxy 11 without a motor first so you know where to aim the dish




Well , my due south elevation is around 50 degrees . Makes it much easier to shoot over obstacles .

Like trees or back porches . :-(

Wyr
 
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