New Directv HR54 and H44 models

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Is transponder bonding really necessary? They put 6 HD on one transponder now, you mean you couldn't put 2 4k in that same amount of space? I'm saying 2 4k in the space of 6hd which I thought with HEVC it would even be closer (3 or 4 4k in the space of 6 HD).

What's a tp worth these days anyway? 40 - 50 Mbps?
 

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Is transponder bonding really necessary? They put 6 HD on one transponder now, you mean you couldn't put 2 4k in that same amount of space? I'm saying 2 4k in the space of 6hd which I thought with HEVC it would even be closer (3 or 4 4k in the space of 6 HD).

What's a tp worth these days anyway? 40 - 50 Mbps?
a single transponder could easily carry one more likely two 4k channels, I believe the limitation people are anticipating is directv's swm system, could possibly need 2 swm channels(tuners) to pull down a 4k channel. Again this is all speculation.. If the new HR54 had 8 tuners or more it wouldn't be a big deal but with just 5 tuners that could become a problem.
 

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Is transponder bonding really necessary? They put 6 HD on one transponder now, you mean you couldn't put 2 4k in that same amount of space? I'm saying 2 4k in the space of 6hd which I thought with HEVC it would even be closer (3 or 4 4k in the space of 6 HD).
I hear with bonded transponders they can fit up to 5 channels using 2 transponders.
 

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Looks like from the FCC spec sheet the HR54-500 is identical to the HR44 in CPU, RAM, and tuners. Capture.PNG

HR54 looks like it has less connections in the rear, I just hope its not another lower cost to manufacturer model, similar to the C51 is replacing the C41.


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Well even though the documentation says its a 5 tuner its possible it is incorrect. This pic zoomed in shows clearly it would use 7 tuners on a swm system :) .
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Also looks like 1TB drive though... :-(

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So a new install if it's only one room can't get a Genie ?

I'm going to argue this. I see a 1 box genie, daily. There for a while they stopped doing 1 box genie installs but for maybe the past 6 months or so they're there. I'm not the only one either. Every tech around me gets them. So either customers are willing to pay for them (which I've never heard a customer say or admit they had to pay extra) or my market just happens to be the exception to this rule
 

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a single transponder could easily carry one more likely two 4k channels, I believe the limitation people are anticipating is directv's swm system, could possibly need 2 swm channels(tuners) to pull down a 4k channel. Again this is all speculation.. If the new HR54 had 8 tuners or more it wouldn't be a big deal but with just 5 tuners that could become a problem.


We was told it was due to the SWM limitations
 

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Interesting looking at the specs the HR54 does not support bonded transponders.

Also it says it has 6 tuners but only 5 are usable.
 

satgirl51

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Interesting looking at the specs the HR54 does not support bonded transponders.

Also it says it has 6 tuners but only 5 are usable.
Ya but the specs also don't match what is clearly printed on the back of the box, 7 swm tuners(would be 8 actual)

Also the HR44 has 6 tuners also, and only 5 are usable, 1 is reserved for guide data I believe.

Also looks like they were testing it with an old swm8 and PI-29Capture3.PNG Capture.PNG
 

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I'm going to argue this. I see a 1 box genie, daily. There for a while they stopped doing 1 box genie installs but for maybe the past 6 months or so they're there. I'm not the only one either. Every tech around me gets them. So either customers are willing to pay for them (which I've never heard a customer say or admit they had to pay extra) or my market just happens to be the exception to this rule
I know if I was signing up for D* and only needed 1 TV, I would EXPECT a Genie.
With the equipment they are using now theres No way I would settle for a 2 tuner DVR in that scenario.
 

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I know if I was signing up for D* and only needed 1 TV, I would EXPECT a Genie.
With the equipment they are using now theres No way I would settle for a 2 tuner DVR in that scenario.


I agree 100%

I understand not issuing genies and clients to every new customer due to cost but does a genie and 3 clients really cost less than an HDDVR and 3 HD's?
 
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I can't add much of value to this, but just wanted to say thanks for the posts on the beta units and the pictures - great to see it is out into people's hands.

Summary of what I read, same specs thus likely same speed / performance. Likely improved from 5 tuners to 7 tuners (based on the writing on back of box).
No extra storage, and access card moved to the side (likely just for consistency with other next-gen receivers (H44 / client boxes).
External appears to be much the same except the removed access door with the access card / reset button moved to the side.
 

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I'm going to argue this. I see a 1 box genie, daily. There for a while they stopped doing 1 box genie installs but for maybe the past 6 months or so they're there. I'm not the only one either. Every tech around me gets them. So either customers are willing to pay for them (which I've never heard a customer say or admit they had to pay extra) or my market just happens to be the exception to this rule
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