And they honestly shouldnt let him back. The concussion talk and going after the ACL is pretty damning.
I understand wanting to get your players fired up, and yes it is football, but this is WAY over the line.
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I understand wanting to get your players fired up, and yes it is football, but this is WAY over the line.
I agree. Those are the two that jumped out on me. Everything else is normal and part of the game which is violent. It's common to want to "test" a players injury.its part of wanting to explore the weaknesses of the team you'll be facing that week.that's why you look at injury reports. But going for people's heads knowing they have suffered a concussion or purposely doing what you can to tear someone's acl is excessive.
Suspensions upheld, Payton starts his on 4/16, Vitt and Looms start theirs at the conclusion of the preseason. Monetary fines may be reconsidered in the future.
Bill Parcells unlikely to coach New Orleans Saints, sources say - ESPN
Can't say I'm shocked. Parcells just like being courted; he comes off like an attention whore...
If an interim coach does well, I think the Saints will have a hard time justifying the $7m+ salary Payton makes. Pretty easy to fire him with cause after this mess.
Saints games are selling out after years of hard times. I think the fans would revolt if they let Payton go. Don't think management would want that. You never know though.
Looks like they're planning on having Vitt coach the preseason, have some internal fill in while he is suspended, then have Vitt finish the year as HC. This would allow for continuity on offense and defense and not taking either coordinator away/distract with HC duties.
I wonder what does does to Payton's chances of working on TV this season. Does he need contact with "anyone around the NFL" to do that job??
New Orleans Saints' Sean Payton barred from all league contact, source says - ESPN
All I can say, is 'Wow'.... 
Sources: New Orleans Saints' Mickey Loomis could eavesdrop on opposing coaches during home games - ESPN
Sources: New Orleans Saints' Mickey Loomis could eavesdrop on opposing coaches during home games - ESPN
I really think Greg Williams should be banned from football at EVERY LEVEL forever. That includes Pee wee.
All I can say, is 'Wow'....
Sources: New Orleans Saints' Mickey Loomis could eavesdrop on opposing coaches during home games - ESPN
You know, I would ALSO say "wow!" too...but after those SAME folks at "outside the lines" flubbed and screwed up the whole Bernie Fine thing...I will hold off until other credible news sources report the same thing based on their findings.
Looks like Pro Football Talk is weighing in and they think it does not hold water:
At first blush, allegations of Loomis espionage make no sense
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2012, 4:22 PM EDT
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ESPN currently is making a big deal about the allegation that Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis was eavesdropping on the communications in which opposing coaches engaged during games. At first blush, however, the notion that Loomis would find value in hearing the play calls and other communications between the opponents’ coaches makes no sense.
As ESPN’s Bill Polian said when asked to explain the edge that the Saints obtained doing this, “There’s something missing here. I don’t know what kind of competitive advantage you could get. Mickey would have to know the verbiage of every other opposing team in order to translate, and then he would have to do it instantly and find some way to communicate with his coaching staff, and get it down to the field in time to be useful. That would be very difficult to do, in my opinion.”
Polian’s right, and he has no natural incentive to help the team that beat his Colts for a Super Bowl that culminated a season in which bounties allegedly were used. If Loomis knew what the opposing coaches were saying, there would have been no way to translate that information into something that could be used to the Saints’ benefit.
Even if the conversations were being taped and later given to the coaching staff, there’s no way to take that information and turn it into anything that could be used in a future game.
That doesn’t mean the situation shouldn’t be fully investigated. But it would be ludicrous for Loomis to engage in a blatant violation of federal law if there was nothing to be gained by doing so.
UPDATE 4:34 p.m. ET: As ESPN’s Adam Schefter also pointed out on the air, Loomis isn’t “an Xs and Os evaluator, so it would be difficult for him to get that information down to somebody in a timely fashion when that’s not the language he’s accustomed to speaking. He’s accustomed to dealing with agents, doing contracts, managing the cap, finagling the roster, not dealing with play calls and Xs and Os.”
At first blush, allegations of Loomis espionage make no sense | ProFootballTalk
At first blush, allegations of Loomis espionage make no sense
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2012, 4:22 PM EDT
AP
ESPN currently is making a big deal about the allegation that Saints G.M. Mickey Loomis was eavesdropping on the communications in which opposing coaches engaged during games. At first blush, however, the notion that Loomis would find value in hearing the play calls and other communications between the opponents’ coaches makes no sense.
As ESPN’s Bill Polian said when asked to explain the edge that the Saints obtained doing this, “There’s something missing here. I don’t know what kind of competitive advantage you could get. Mickey would have to know the verbiage of every other opposing team in order to translate, and then he would have to do it instantly and find some way to communicate with his coaching staff, and get it down to the field in time to be useful. That would be very difficult to do, in my opinion.”
Polian’s right, and he has no natural incentive to help the team that beat his Colts for a Super Bowl that culminated a season in which bounties allegedly were used. If Loomis knew what the opposing coaches were saying, there would have been no way to translate that information into something that could be used to the Saints’ benefit.
Even if the conversations were being taped and later given to the coaching staff, there’s no way to take that information and turn it into anything that could be used in a future game.
That doesn’t mean the situation shouldn’t be fully investigated. But it would be ludicrous for Loomis to engage in a blatant violation of federal law if there was nothing to be gained by doing so.
UPDATE 4:34 p.m. ET: As ESPN’s Adam Schefter also pointed out on the air, Loomis isn’t “an Xs and Os evaluator, so it would be difficult for him to get that information down to somebody in a timely fashion when that’s not the language he’s accustomed to speaking. He’s accustomed to dealing with agents, doing contracts, managing the cap, finagling the roster, not dealing with play calls and Xs and Os.”
At first blush, allegations of Loomis espionage make no sense | ProFootballTalk
So, because he's not familiar with the terminology, or the information learned couldn't be communicated to those who could in a timely manner, it's OK to cheat??
Wasn't that the reasoning behind the Spygate punishments; that they potentially could be used in the future??
Spy gate was for taping signals and walktbrough for a game about to be played.
This stuff makes little sense, I agree with PFT.
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Yes, a walkthrough for Super Bowl XXXVI, but a few during actual games also:
Walsh has tapes, but not of walkthrough - The Boston Globe
Matt Walsh lied, no one taped the Rams walkthrough.
New England Patriots: Matt Walsh's Credibility Problem | Bleacher Report
Why do you keep saying this?
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Keep saying this?? I mentioned the accusation that meStevo brought up a post before. Hardly qualifies as repetition...
