Tell us about your Local HD

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A_Noland

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Yesterday (10/29/03) the Tulsa CBS affiliate finally started passing HD, they had been broadcasting DTV for over a year. 15 months after I purchased my HDTV and Model 6000 all the major stations are passing HD from there providers. I think the local UPN may even try to pass some HD in the near future.

NBC Full power with HD passthrough. Up time is same as analog.
CBS 1/3rd Power with HD passthrough. I don't think they are on fulltime.
ABC Full power with HD passthrough. Up time is same as analog.
FOX Full power with EDTV passthrough. Up most of the day.
UPN Full power, NO HD yet. Up most of the day.
PBS Full power with HD passthrough. 4 hours a day.
WB Doesn't even have a DTV assignment yet. :(

PAX and 2 other religions stations. There up most of the day, SD only.


Tell us about your cities HD. How many stations? Are they passing HD?
 
Scott Greczkowski

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Ok here's what I get from 10 miles outside of Hartford.

CBS - Only 1/4 power... For some reason they insist broadcasting their SD and HD signals together. I wish they would dump the SD on the Digital feed and use all the bandwidth for HD.
ABC - Full Power, HD on Channel 8.01, Weather Radar on 8.02, Sports Scores on 8.03
NBC - Full Power HD (Broadcasting from Springfield Mass - Connecticut's NBC still does not even have a Digital Signal up)
Univision - Digital Signal - NO HD
PBS - 4 Channels of SD in the day and HD at night. From Springfield Mass (No PBS HD from the Hartford PBS station yet)
UPN - Digital poor signal no HD yet. (But they claim they are working on installing HD stuff)
WB - Digital Signal no HD
PAX - Digital Signal no HD only on a few hours a day

No FOX in Digital yet.
 
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Sean Mota

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New York City (ESB)

If you live within 30 miles of the Empire State Building (ESB), you will probably can get CBS, FOX, UPN and WB. WNET only those that live in Staten Island have reported that they can get a signal.


  • WCBS (1080i)..........................56 (2-0) ............Most can get this
  • WNYW Fox (480p)....................44 (5-1) ............Most can get this
  • WWOR UPN.............................44 (5-2) ............PQ is terrible. No HD is transmitted. It is own by Fox and is under a subchannel.
  • WNET PBS (HD Loop) (1080i)......61 (13-1) ..........Only a few can get this. Very low power pointing towards NJ.
  • WNET PBS Kids (1080i)..............61 (13-2) ..........Only a few can get this. Very low power pointing towards NJ.
  • WNET PBS (1080i)....................61 (13-3) ..........Only a few can get this. Very low power pointing towards NJ.
  • WFTY (Telefutura)..................23 ............Smithtown, NY (No HD)
  • WLIW PBS HD Loop......................22 (21.1) ....Garden City, NY
  • WLIW PBS..............................22 (21.2) ....Garden City, NY (Digital Transmission)
  • WEDW PBS CPTV.......52 (49-01)....Bridgeport (PBS HD loop after 7:00pm)
  • WEDW PBS Kids.........52 (49-02)....Bridgeport
  • WEDW PBS XP..........52 (49-03)....Bridgeport
  • WEDW PBS You.........52 (49-04)....Bridgeport
  • WEDW PBS...............52 (49-05)....Bridgeport ( Not Transmitting)
  • WTNH ABC (720p)......10 (08-01)....New Haven
  • WTNH ABC (720p)......10 (08-02)....New Haven
  • WTNH ABC (720p)......10 (08-03)....New Haven
  • WPIX WB (1080i)..................11.1...............ESB Low power.
  • WPIX WB (1080i)..................11.2...............ESB
  • WPIX WB (1080i)..................75.1...............ESB
  • WPIX WB (1080i)..................75.2...............ESB
  • WPIX WB (1080i)..................12.1...............ESB
  • WFUT TFA................53.......................Manhattan (no HD)
  • WXTV UNI................40.......................Manhattan (no HD)
  • WABC......................45.1 (720p)...................Manhattan
  • WABC......................45.2 (SD).......................Manhattan

Future OTA: Who knows when?

  • WNBC......................28.......................????
  • WMBC IND................18.......................????
  • WRNN IND................48.......................????
  • WPXN PAX................30.......................????
  • WNYE PBS...............24.......................11/1/03......Station 25 Brooklyn, NY
  • WNJB PBS.................8.........................11/1/03
  • WEDH PBS................32.......................11/03
  • WSAH SAH...............42.......................?????
  • WTBY TBN................27.......................?????
  • WNJU TEL................36.......................?????
  • WWOR UPN...............38........................???
  • WPIX WB..................33........................???
 
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bcwmachine

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Get Denver and Albuquerque stations off translators, No Digital, No HDTV. Not likely to change for quite a while.
 
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jssat

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I get:

ABC- Indianapolis
NBC- Indianapolis
FOX- Indianapolis
CBS- Indianapolis (LATE AT NIGHT)
WB- Indianapolis

CBS- Lafayette


Indianapolis is 75 miles away. I was very surprised!

How strong of signal do you guys get on your digital locals?
 
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Sean Mota

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Here's an update. WABC in NYC went live yesterday :) It was about time. Since the WTC went down NYC has been without WABC OTA. It still operating on low power but if you live within 30 miles radius you can get a good signal strength. Now we need WNBC to get on board with OTA. Now we have CBS, Fox, UPN (makes you sick), WB, ABC, PBS (Various local broadcast that you make get from Long Island, CT, Manhattan or NJ depending on your location). I usually get a signal strength between 85% to 95%. I only live about 15 miles from Manhattan.
 
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Listings of Digtial stations in the Washington / Baltimore Region:
  1. [*]002-01 52 ABC WMAR-DT HDTV DD5.1
    [*]002-02 52 ABC WMAR-DT SD
    [*]002-03 52 ABC WMAR-DT Doppler
    [*]004-01 48 NBC WRC-DT HDTV
    [*]005-01 36 FOX WTTG-DT EDTV DD5.1
    [*]007-01 39 ABC WJLA-DT HDTV
    [*]009-01 34 CBS WUSA-DT HDTV DD5.1
    [*]011-01 59 NBC WBAL-DT HDTV
    [*]013-01 38 CBS WJZ-DT HDTV DD5.1
    [*]020-01 35 UPN WDCA-DT (low power)
    [*]022-02 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT-DT
    [*]022-03 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT Kids
    [*]022-04 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT-SQ Public Square
    [*]022-05 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT-LNR Learner
    [*]022-06 42 PBS WMPT-DT MPT-HD HDTV DD5.1
    [*]024-01 40 UPN WUTB-DT (low power)
    [*]026-01 27 PBS WETA-DT HDTV/SD DD5.1
    [*]026-02 27 PBS WETA-DT Prime
    [*]026-03 27 PBS WETA-DT PBS Kids
    [*]026-04 27 PBS WETA-DT PBS You
    [*]045-01 46 FOX WBFF-DT SD
    [*]050-01 51 WB_ WBDC-DT HDTV DD5.1
    [*]050-02 51 WB. WBDC-DT
    [*]054-01 41 WB. WNUV-DT (low power)
    [*]057-01 57 MHz WNVC-DT MHz1
    [*]057-02 57 MHz WNVT-DT MHz2
    [*]057-03 57 MHz WNVC-DT MHz3
    [*]057-04 57 MHz WNVC-DT MHz4
    [*]066-01 43 PAX WPXW-DT WPXW
    [*]066-02 43 PAX WPXW-DT PAX-M
    [*]066-04 43 PAX WPXW-DT PRAIS
    [*]066-05 43 PAX WPXW-DT WORSH
    [*]066-06 43 PAX WPXW-DT TLN

    Orange indicates UHF Digital Channel assignments
    DD5.1 indicates Dolby Digital 5.1 capable stations

    Future Digital Channels

    [*]014-01 15 TFA WFDC-DT (Under Review)
    [*]053-01 30 PBS WNVT-DT (Oct 1, 2003)
    [*]032-01 33 PBS WHUT-DT (Nov 1, 2003)
    [*]067-01 29 PBS WMPB-DT (Under Review) *spotted testing *
    [*]062-01 28 PBS WFPT-DT (Sept 15, 2003)
 
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rcbridge

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I live in the Philadelphia DMA
I am about 25miles from the main antenna farm.
My CBS, NBC and ABC give me high signal strength. All the programing in primetime which indicate HD are so.
Fox (Widescreen ) has a weaker signal but watchable
PBS and WB and now UPN are also watchable I must tweak my antenna slightly. :p
 
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brentp

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Here is what I get about 40 miles NW of the Boston towers. I can also get the Manchester, NH ABC feed even through I am about 150 degrees off axis from that tower due to its closer proximity (although at quit a bit less power). Other stations are suppose to be primed and ready to go, . . . I haven't check in awhile if they have turned on or not. Also, not 100% sure on the 44-xx PBS order, other than I get the 4 sub-stations mentioned, . . . and their quality really is poor.

Not too bad of a DT line up!!!

2-01, 19 WGBH-DT PBS Boston MA
2-02 PBS HD
4-01, 30 WBZ-DT CBS Boston MA
5-01, 20 WCVB-DT ABC Boston MA
5-02 Boston Doppler Radar (not Working 24/7 yet)
7-01, 42 WHDH-DT NBC Boston MA
9-01, 59 WMUR-DT ABC Manchester NH
25-01, 31 WFXT-DT FOX Boston MA
23-01, 23 WUTF-DT UNI Marlborough MA (I've Deleted this)
35-01, 35 WNDS-DT IND Derry NH (very weak)
38-01, 39 WSBK-DT UPN Boston MA
44-01, 43 WGBX-DT PBS Boston MA
44-02 PBS-East
44-03 PBS-West
44-04 PBS-Kids
56-01, 41 WLVI-DT WB Cambridge MA
 
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John Quaglino

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Sep 9, 2003
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New Orleans

Live in the suburbs only about 15 miles from the transmitter.

CBS - Belo owned, been passing HD since May 2002
NBC - Hearst owned been passing HD since November 2002
ABC - Tribune owned, just went online in October. They did a major upgrade and combination of analog and digital for two stations that were on separat tower. Now on one. Does not pass HD. Said to be waiting on equipment.
FOX - not on the air and they are only going on at low power. They just received a use it or lose it warning from the FCC.
WB - Tribune owned. Same as ABC.
UPN - They have been on the air low powered since November 2002. They have yet to pass any HD.
PBS - We've got two PBS stations and no digital from either.
PAX - Nothing here.
Religious - We have a LeSea station broadcasting SD upconversion.
 
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marko

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hum,

get abc/nbc/cbs in hd

fox in whatever format they broadcast(some old hdnet durning the day)

pax/wb in digital

unfortunately, I have to turn my indoor antenna to get pbs, but they are not broadcasting hd full time anyway (well, not recently anyway).

Our cbs station (wral) is probably the premier hdtv local station in the nation (or one of them). Local news in hd, various local specials in hd, all 4 ncaa tourney games at the same time on their digital channels (wral digital, and wraz digital I think).
 
hankh

hankh

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Tyler, Texas
Live in East Texas and receive the following
signals:

Tyler DMA = KETK 56-1(22) NBC

Shreveport DMA = KTBS 3-1,2,3(28) ABC
KSLA 12-1(17) CBS
KTAL 6-1(15) NBC

Of the four, the only one with HD content is KTBS.
 
hankh

hankh

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Tyler, Texas
Shreveport DMA = KTBS 3-1,2,3(28) ABC


I don't know how that face got in there, but the channel number
should read 28.
 
wcswett

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I'm in the Atlanta DMA but am more than 70 miles from any station broadcasting digitally, and it will probably be that way until the FCC forces everyone to go digital. All my HD comes via satellite. Until recently I was considered to be in a white area for all networks, then ABC did something to change that and now I'm supposedly in the "B" zone for them (or something) though I can't even get their analog signal from the top of a mountain. Viva la Canada!

--- WCS
 
TheaterWizard

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50 miles from denver, and 40 from Cheyenne Wyo, in Windsor Colorado.

I get Zip, nothing nada. :(

Have seen some SD blips from Wyo but nothing for a while.

Denver must be the furthest behind of anyone in the country after years of litigation over the new HD towers, so they are all low power broadcasts from there downtown locations.

Feel sorry for me, K.
:( :( :(
 
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Jeffdbs

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Twenty miles from Kansas City-CBS, ABC, NBC, UPN, 2-PBS's in HDTV. WB in SD(soon HDTV) and Fox on low power unable to receive yet. :D
 
CharlesO

CharlesO

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Agua Fria, Arizona
DTV in Honolulu.

ACTIVE STATIONS
KITV 4(DT 40) ABC 8.5kwDA 720p. CP for 1000kw transmitter.
KGMB 9(DT 8 ) CBS 7.8kw 1080i. Can only pass HD live, expects to offer CBS primetime by end of '04.
KWHE 14 (DT 31) Ind. 4.2kw 480i.
KIKU 20 (DT 19) Japanese 50kw 480i.
KBFD 32 (DT 33) Korean 4.7kw 480i.
KPXO 66(DT 41) PAX STA 1.6kw(Licenced for Kaneohe) 480i.

NON-ACTIVE
KHON 2(DT 22) FOX Was operating on STA, now off-air undergoing upgrade to 720p. Using KGMB transmitter for DT.
KFVE 5(DT 23) WB. Upgrading TL(Palehua Ridge)expects to go digital by end of '04.
KHET 11(DT 18 ) PBS. Building new studios, target Q1 '05. Analog Transmitter on KGMB Tower, will use KFVE transmitter for DT.
KHNL 13(DT 35) NBC. Will use KFVE transmitter for DT.
KALO 38. APP with FCC for DT assignment.
KWBN 44. Daystar. APP with FCC for DT assignment.
 
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drcos

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Sep 13, 2003
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Columbiana, OH

Three "local" stations
20 WFMJ (NBC)
36 WYTV (ABC)
46 WNEO (PBS)

Pittsburgh stations
25 KDKA (CBS)
38 WQED (PBS)
48 WPXI (NBC)
43 WPGH (FOX, owned by Sinclair, no EDTV, not ever)
42 WCWB (WB, owned by Sinclair, no HD, weak station anyways)

Cleveland stations
15 WEWS (ABC)
28 WUAB (UPN, owned by fox, no HD)
31 WJW (FOX, finally saw 'Fox Widescreen' football today)

Stations I might should be able to get but don't
51 WTAE (ABC) Pittsburgh, weak signal
32 WTRF (CBS) Wheeling, same deal
57 WTOV (NBC) Steubenville, same deal

The only stations I can get all the time are my locals, KDKA and WEWS
Other Pittsburgh stations come in better when it's NOT raining, other Cleveland stations come in better when it IS raining.
Using a Winegard HD9095 and CM 7777 amp.
 

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