The Reverse Band LNB's are coming!

[Jimbo]

Slightly, there are pictures floating around here of both wnc models, and the wnc reverse 3 leaked to ebay. No one leaked the pbi pictures yet but it looks alot different than the wnc

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I saw an LNB when at a training course (not for D*) that I had never seen before, I wish I had thought about taking pictures when I was there.
I have No Idea what it is suppose to be for ... it was on the normal base, but was much smaller, it was only 1 lnb, and it was almost pointed ....

Seeing I was the only one there than knew anything about the D* stuff that was there, there was no sense in asking.
It was definitely a room att was using for D* training ...

 

[twizt3dsist3r]

Sounds like the international

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[twizt3dsist3r]

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[twizt3dsist3r]

Sounds like the international

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Is that it?

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[Jimbo]

Is that it?

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Yup, that was the one ...
I was thinking International might have been what it was, because I've dealt with the majority of the others.

 

[HoTat2]

Yep, the WD service at 95W uses this, a standard 11.7-12.2 GHz Ku-band linear (Horiz pol.) LNBF.
L.O. 10.750 GHz.

Always interesting how the longer dimension of the feedhorn-waveguide assembly of a linear LNBF is at right angles to the electrical polarization it receives. Therefore, in this case the pointiness is on the longer vertical part of the shape, yet the wavefront it receives is horizontal or in line with the shorter part of the shape.

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[videojanitor]

I bought a reverse band LNB off eBay (3D2LNBR0-02) as I needed a SWM LNB anyway so I figured I'd just get one of these. I had it connected to an HR21 and it worked fine. Yesterday I replaced that machine with an HR54, and while the LNB works, it appears that it is mis-identified in the setup process -- the HR21 identified it as "21: Slimline-3D2R" while the HR54 IDs it as "20: Slimline-3D2." I have gone through the "repeat satellite setup" steps a number of times, with the same result. The (r) transponders do not appear, though they did appear on the HR21. The HR54 is now the only thing in the system connected directly to the LNB -- no splitter or power inserter. It is running 0xb23 software.

Any ideas?

 

[HoTat2]

I bought a reverse band LNB off eBay (3D2LNBR0-02) as I needed a SWM LNB anyway so I figured I'd just get one of these. I had it connected to an HR21 and it worked fine. Yesterday I replaced that machine with an HR54, and while the LNB works, it appears that it is mis-identified in the setup process -- the HR21 identified it as "21: Slimline-3D2R" while the HR54 IDs it as "20: Slimline-3D2." I have gone through the "repeat satellite setup" steps a number of times, with the same result. The (r) transponders do not appear, though they did appear on the HR21. The HR54 is now the only thing in the system connected directly to the LNB -- no splitter or power inserter. It is running 0xb23 software.

Any ideas?

Carefully check the model number on the LNB again, as that number you posted is not a Reverse Band capable one.

The Reverse Band one should be a WNC 3D2RBLNBR0-01. Notice the "RB" in the character string for it.

The model number you posted is for a non-Reverse Band LNB mfr. by PBI meaning for some strange reason the HR21 was the one in error.

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[videojanitor]

D'oh! Well, I am officially an idiot. It appears as though I did not read the eBay description close enough. You are absolutely correct in that this is NOT a Reverse Band LNB. Thought maybe I was taken for a ride, but just went back and read the seller's description, and I did not see the phrase "reverse band" in there. I was looking at several listings, and guess I chose the wrong one. Oh well ... I don't need that capability at this time.

As for why the HR21 saw it, as I recall, in the satellite setup I was able to *manually* change it to whatever I wanted, so I selected 3D2R, thinking that's what I had. It worked, so I didn't give it a second thought. Well, lesson learned. Thanks for the response.

 

[twizt3dsist3r]

The pbi rev3 just went into testing, sites didn't get them yet so the won't leak to ebay for a while.

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[maestro7]

You folks that want to wait 3-5 years probably buy green bananas too.
There are no guarantees in life.

I will tell you what is a guarantee when it comes to 4K.

It will require multi-million-dollar re-investments for most broadcasters to achieve 4K in terms of both bandwidth and facilities.

You see, right now, virtually all US-based broadcasters are at 720p/1080i. Even if they were to merely upgrade to 1080p, it would require a relatively significant outlay of money to do so; this is by no means a "flip a bit" software issue to turn on or off.

On top of this, we are still a few years away from all standards (think VHS versus Beta) being worked out. Don't get me wrong, we're closer now than we were a few years ago, but this is still a factor. Also, don't forget that HD got hoisted relatively quickly on the scene because the feds mandated a date-certain change from analog to digital for OTA broadcasts; don't expect the same to happen for 4K.

Therefore, this is why you'll see content much more quickly from specialized broadcasters such as Audience or Sports -- after all, getting a 4K camera is the least of anyone's headaches (even my DJI Phantom 3 Pro drone can broadcast to Youtube in 4K/30fps) -- than you will see from the alphabet soup networks.

4K will come, and with it, so will 8K (which cinematographers are already playing with). It's just not going to be as fast in getting here as HD.

 

[AZ.]

I will tell you what is a guarantee when it comes to 4K.

It will require multi-million-dollar re-investments for most broadcasters to achieve 4K in terms of both bandwidth and facilities.

You see, right now, virtually all US-based broadcasters are at 720p/1080i. Even if they were to merely upgrade to 1080p, it would require a relatively significant outlay of money to do so; this is by no means a "flip a bit" software issue to turn on or off.

On top of this, we are still a few years away from all standards (think VHS versus Beta) being worked out. Don't get me wrong, we're closer now than we were a few years ago, but this is still a factor. Also, don't forget that HD got hoisted relatively quickly on the scene because the feds mandated a date-certain change from analog to digital for OTA broadcasts; don't expect the same to happen for 4K.

Therefore, this is why you'll see content much more quickly from specialized broadcasters such as Audience or Sports -- after all, getting a 4K camera is the least of anyone's headaches (even my DJI Phantom 3 Pro drone can broadcast to Youtube in 4K/30fps) -- than you will see from the alphabet soup networks.

4K will come, and with it, so will 8K (which cinematographers are already playing with). It's just not going to be as fast in getting here as HD.

Yep all that is very true......But the movie industry is moving at lighting speed to get there 4k movies out!
Look at every week how many older movies are being released?.....Its an easy move for Hollywood, so I would say streaming wise, there way faster than HD was....

 

[CSM]

Does that RB LNB have the PI built in?

 

[cinsu]

Does that RB LNB have the PI built in?

Umm no. The HR54 (at this point the only receiver used with the LNB) does.

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[alnielsen]

Umm no. The HR54 (at this point the only receiver used with the LNB) does.

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So does the H44 (not to be confused with the HR44).

 

[goaliebob99]

Has anyone heard anything on the 5D2RBLNBR0-01? I need it for 110/119.

 

[texasbrit]

Not "in the wild" yet, but there's no panic. It could be months before you need reverse band.

 

[HoTat2]

Not "in the wild" yet, but there's no panic. It could be months before you need reverse band.

Though I need it for more than RB.

Need 119W, have 15 tuners here, and tired of my hot running SWiM-16 ...

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[texasbrit]

The SWM16 always runs hot, is that a problem?

 

[cinsu]

Though I need it for more than RB.

Need 119W, have 15 tuners here, and tired of my hot running SWiM-16 ...

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Same here. I constantly have moca bridge issues. Been thru 3 of them.