Thinking of getting this antenna for the Attic!

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but note in the next couple months they (wzme) is losing the affiliate

kvnv is moving from Nevada to New Jersey (due to a fcc loophole) and is going to be the MeTV affiliate for NY
The good? they will be broadcasting from 4 Times Square (Condé Nast Building)
the bad? it will be on VHF Low (channel 3)
predicted coverage
http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.php?appid=1556496&map=Y

Are you sure on this?WZME actually broadcasts and operates in CT but they call it NY.If true then no Ct over the air station will cover most of ct and i will need cable or Sat to continue to watch them.This is bad news
 
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yes i am sure. wzme while in ct is in the nyc dma. they are losing the affiliate when kvnv signs on in ny (well they are licensed to nj but will transmit from nyc)

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/73575/metv-picks-up-bigmarket-primary-slots
Me-TV is currently seen in some parts of New York on NRJ TV’s WZME Bridgeport, Conn., and on Time Warner Cable. In Philadelphia, Me-TV currently airs on a subchannel of Maranatha’s WFMZ. Those affiliations will be dropped.
 
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Looks like kvnv will transmit from NYC and is on LO VHF.Since the station will be near 90 miles sw of my location is there any hope of getting this new station with a good ant in the attic??.
 
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Looks like kvnv will transmit from NYC and is on LO VHF.Since the station will be near 90 miles sw of my location is there any hope of getting this new station with a good ant in the attic??.

90 miles is 30 miles over the horizon. You MAY get it with a large antenna mounted on at least a 40ft tower, but not likely from an antenna in your attic...
 
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Question! In my early days when it was all analog I could swear that I was able to get some NYC stations here in central Ct with just rabbit ears.Is digital much more dependent on line of site than analog.Also Analog used skip for tv dxing and I guess that wont work for digital.
 
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No, skip still works. Also, tv antenna reception has some voodoo to it, so you could be in just the right spot to receive stations far away. You just can't depend on it and it can fade in and out pretty quickly. The biggest difference is that the Fed's made the tv stations turn their power way DOWN when they went digital.
 
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No, skip still works. Also, tv antenna reception has some voodoo to it, so you could be in just the right spot to receive stations far away. You just can't depend on it and it can fade in and out pretty quickly. The biggest difference is that the Fed's made the tv stations turn their power way DOWN when they went digital.
Why turn down the power? THis would make a lot of sence why many stations I got long time ago I cant get today.
 
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The biggest difference is that the Fed's made the tv stations turn their power way DOWN when they went digital.

no they didnt. they (the fcc) said to the stations with digital you can cover the same area with less power (therefore saving money)
thats why uhf stations in analog were 5 million watts max and now max of 1 million
vhf is a lot lower and they (the fcc) really screwed that one up. why they said a vhf hi that ran 316k watts (the max) on analog can get by on say 30kw now was beyond idiotic. they have since granted a fair a amount of power increases

heck my only local (kxgn) use to run 15,000 watts analog on channel 5. they're running 1000 watts digital on RF5.
 
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The power is also measured differently in analog versus digital. In analog, 5000 kW on UHF was the peak power. In digital, 1000 kW on UHF is the average power. The average power of a 5000 kW (peak) analog signal was something like 2000 kW, which is something like 3 dB above the 1000 kW digital limit. And then, remember that analog needed something like 30 dB more power than digital does for a clean picture, so digital signals should, in theory, be significantly stronger than analog signals were, at least on UHF, if you compare apples to apples (clear picture on analog versus clear picture on digital).

VHF stations, on the other hand, needed adjustments to account for increased noise-floor. If there were no other noise sources in the world, the power levels specified would work just fine with an outdoor antenna. The math backs that up. Unfortunately, we do not live in the world, we live in a world with external noise sources. To overcome those, VHF stations need more power than was typically granted by the FCC.

- Trip
 

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