thanks Jim, i saw that, but it is 10 days old,, alot can happen in that time, so thats why i asked,, well then now i am stumped....
edit....ok i do have something ,since there is now way i am going up on a roof tonight in this weather and sitting bored i decided to go Sat Fishing, i made the motor go to echo3 61.5, and i DO get the free info channel!!!!!so i am finally hitting a sat that i am supposed to, so now i have questions,,,can trees be making that much of a differnence and blocking when the dish is at other positions,,and now what do i do to get SBS6 amd AMC3,, do i make go back to reference point in the usals setup under the echo3 setting, or do the SBS6 usals set up and make t g to reference, or do i just put in my long and lat and tell it to move??thanks,, i am stil baffled how this could be...