Voom: Swanni says it best.

jerryez · May 14, 2008

Read this. I couldn't have said it better and I sent it to CEO@dishnetwork.com

Dish Network Expands 'Chutzpah Capacity'

RandallA · May 14, 2008

To some degree. This statement is not true:

"(The satcaster needed to remove the Voom channels to make room for the 22 new high-def channels"

jerryez · May 14, 2008

Not, if the use the extra space for more LIL. It is close enough that I hope it makes Dish squirm.

Mojo · May 14, 2008

"The satcaster declares it has 95 national HD channels -- when it knew it wouldn't just hours later."

This is so Dishnet...........

whatchel1 · May 14, 2008

This is one of the only times that I'm almost in agreement with the Swanni. I/ve email Dish about my displeasure with them.

Sean Mota · May 14, 2008

I usually don't agree with swanni but hit the nail in the cofin on this one:

And if the publications that wrote those stories on Monday never bothered to update them with the Voom news, well, even better for Dish's sagging subscription efforts, huh? (Dish never issued a press release announcing the departure of the Voom channels.)

From company CEO Charlie Ergen on down, Dish Network should be ashamed today. If not a boldfaced lie, Monday's press release was clearly an attempt to fool the public into thinking Dish was something it's not.

Such behavior can only make this reporter wonder if this was a one-time goof-up or something the company does all the time.

Scott Greczkowski · May 14, 2008

I agree with what Swanni wrote on that one.

Tom Bombadil · May 14, 2008

Scott Greczkowski said:
I agree with what Swanni wrote on that one.

And you know it pained Scott to write this.

Mojo · May 14, 2008

Scott Greczkowski said:
I agree with what Swanni wrote on that one.

Sean Mota · May 14, 2008

Is this Pinocchio, or a Dish Network executive?
Dish Network Expands 'Chutzpah Capacity'

RandallA · May 14, 2008

I think a Dish Network Executive.

briani · May 14, 2008

Scott Greczkowski said:
I agree with what Swanni wrote on that one.

Scott, What are your contacts at Dish telling you? Is this a negotiating tactic to get Rainbow media to make concessions......or is Voom gone forever? If so, how long do you think it will take to add more national HD?

Scott Greczkowski · May 14, 2008

Those who do know are not saying. And those who dont know are as confused as we are.

Cyclone · May 14, 2008

Oh, I'm sure that Voom (at least all 15) are gone forever. Dish certainly wanted to get those TPs back so they could put revenue generating products on there.

I could see Rainbow Media taking Monsters and some other channels back to the drawing board and selling them successfully as individual channels to cable and dbs companies. So I could see Dish picking some of them back up one day. The new Voom channels would be more like their sister channels AMC, We, and IFC.

Stargazer · May 14, 2008

If AMC-14 would have successfully launched this probably would not be happening.

M Sparks · May 14, 2008

Cyclone said:
Dish certainly wanted to get those TPs back so they could put revenue generating products on there.

Actually, just taking them down generates more profit. After all, I'm still paying extra for them.

Gee, maybe they should just take down ALL the channels, that would make them MUCH more profitable.

Cyclone said:
I could see Rainbow Media taking Monsters and some other channels back to the drawing board and selling them successfully as individual channels to cable and dbs companies. So I could see Dish picking some of them back up one day. The new Voom channels would be more like their sister channels AMC, We, and IFC.

Let's hope so. I've been a critic of Voom, but still felt they were worth paying for. A consolidated Voom could have more value.

I'm really just irritated that this may put the brakes on IFC-HD. That was the thing in Charlie's old list that I was most excited for.

jdr01930 · May 14, 2008

I wonder if the Direct TV Marketing department is kicking into overdrive with this.
The possibilities are endless for effective and funny ads based on this whole mess.

riffjim4069 · May 14, 2008

Cyclone said:
Oh, I'm sure that Voom (at least all 15) are gone forever. Dish certainly wanted to get those TPs back so they could put revenue generating products on there.

The money makers are ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, and perhaps a dozen cable favorites. A la carte would solve all of these programming woes (pay for programming you actually watch)...and get rid of a whole lot of bandwidth wasters too!

briani · May 14, 2008

Cyclone said:
Oh, I'm sure that Voom (at least all 15) are gone forever. Dish certainly wanted to get those TPs back so they could put revenue generating products on there.

I could see Rainbow Media taking Monsters and some other channels back to the drawing board and selling them successfully as individual channels to cable and dbs companies. So I could see Dish picking some of them back up one day. The new Voom channels would be more like their sister channels AMC, We, and IFC.

I thought Dish had a 20% equity position in the Voom channels......you would think it would be expensive to just write them off! However, you could be correct about them repackaging some of the channels if their exclusive contract with Echostar becomes null and void.

Tom Bombadil · May 14, 2008

So for 8 hours, E* was roughly equal to D*.

Now they are down approx 15.

So if D* would swoop in and get VOOM, they would be +30 vs E*. That would be just desserts for Charlie on this one.

Voom: Swanni says it best.

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