What's the difference in the Joeys?

[BradleyD]

Set that H+ in a safe place and when and if you go to another provider you can give it back to them if they request it. Now, Amazon Prime works on the Joey 3, 4K Joey, and the Joey 4. The Joey 4 gets its apps from Android while the 3 and 4K are built in. Now, if all you are interested in is Amazon all you really need is a Joey 3. You can get that from DISH as a replacement for an older Joey or a new location.

Yes. Thank you very much as I forgot some of those details. I guess J3 with Prime will work fine for now. That tv does not need 4K at this point as if any tv does.

 

[tjboston5676]

I can go to Solidsignal and get a Joey and self install it (paying rent to fDish every month for it even though I bought it from SS) and get Amazon Prime on it like on a H3.

The monthly fee is not a rental fee it is an access fee. You pay per room regardless of whether it's leased or purchased.

 

[BradleyD]

Whatever. It's a fee so it's rent to me and I was aware that rent is paid on the equipment whether or not you bought it. Just like I'm renting an internet connection so I can post on SatelliteGuys, I rent access from Dish for my joey. This is a satellite forum. I'm not interested in transaction terms as long as they can be comprehended. Dealt with them in college and still do with all the stuff I pay for each month.

 

[tjboston5676]

Whatever. It's a fee so it's rent to me and I was aware that rent is paid on the equipment whether or not you bought it. Just like I'm renting an internet connection so I can post on SatelliteGuys, I rent access from Dish for my joey. This is a satellite forum. I'm not interested in transaction terms as long as they can be comprehended. Dealt with them in college and still do with all the stuff I pay for each month.

The only reason I mentioned it, is because the way you worded it sounded like it shouldn't have to be paid if the equipment is purchased. And a lot if people feel the same way. So just clarifying why you have to pay it.

 

[BradleyD]

I could go on, but will not as this is a satellite forum and I have to make another post with a question to which I cannot find an anwer.

 

[ne1scott]

Just got new equipment today. Was supposed to be a hopper 3 and 4K Joey and Wireless Joey.
Was told the 4K Joey was trash and pointless so stay away from it. Had to move to a wired Joey4 instead which requires you to have a hopper Plus on your account. They did not connect it because I didn't want it but had to add it to my account for the Joey 4 to live there. Then they were going to give me a wireless Joey for but they didn't have one on the truck so I kept my existing Wireless Joey. A joey 4 would not work with a hopper 3 without the Plus box being activated on my account.

 

[Bobby]

Just got new equipment today. Was supposed to be a hopper 3 and 4K Joey and Wireless Joey.
Was told the 4K Joey was trash and pointless so stay away from it. Had to move to a wired Joey4 instead which requires you to have a hopper Plus on your account. They did not connect it because I didn't want it but had to add it to my account for the Joey 4 to live there. Then they were going to give me a wireless Joey for but they didn't have one on the truck so I kept my existing Wireless Joey. A joey 4 would not work with a hopper 3 without the Plus box being activated on my account.

That is total nonsense. We have several people here who have Joey 4s working just fine without the need for the Hopper+ being activated or even on the premise. They bought their own Joey 4 and got it activated over the phone. You may need to download the Android files to the Hopper 3. You can do this by pressing Home 3 times, scroll down to Tools, go over to Technician Settings, and then Download ATV files. Once those files are on your Hopper 3 your Joey 4 should pick up the appropriate file and work just fine.

 

[jsmit86]

Just got new equipment today. Was supposed to be a hopper 3 and 4K Joey and Wireless Joey.
Was told the 4K Joey was trash and pointless so stay away from it. Had to move to a wired Joey4 instead which requires you to have a hopper Plus on your account. They did not connect it because I didn't want it but had to add it to my account for the Joey 4 to live there. Then they were going to give me a wireless Joey for but they didn't have one on the truck so I kept my existing Wireless Joey. A joey 4 would not work with a hopper 3 without the Plus box being activated on my account.

Joey 4's will work without the plus. The will bring it out, and may force the install, but it can be removed and everything will work fine. A good installer will help you uninstall it, or perhaps just leave it off.

There are advantages and disadvantages of the plus. All of the apps are android versions, and will enable 4K HDR on YouTube for one example.

The biggest current downside, is that the plus will not support multi-view/PIP.
That may change soon because those features are planned for Joey 4 as well.

The other issue is that the Joey4 and the plus always output 4K, and flag that as HDR, even for SDR content unless you disable enhanced HDMI on your TV.
The problem with that is that your picture settings on the TV generally should be adjusted differently for HDR content. (Typically different brightness i.e. 100% for HDR, and possibly different color settings as well.)

This is not a huge problem, but when I watch using the Joey, I normally leave HDMI set to standard, and ONLY change that setting to enhanced when watching HDR content.