Very good article about Serena Roberts credibility..

[salsadancer7]

Like I have said a few times, you have to get you investigative reporting from other sources other than ESPN, I read this article today from Jason Whitlock about Serena Roberts credibility and it hit a home run. I am not a big fan of Jason, but like I have said before, you HAVE TO give the devil his due.

Here are some highlights on the article:

Her sourcing for the most damaging allegations, by her own admission, is either anonymous or non-existent. She wants us to trust her, and her New York Times- and Sports Illustrated-highlighted résumé.

Unlike Bob Costas, the producers at ESPN and the steroids-obsessed baseball journalists, I don't trust Roberts or her book, and I expressed some of my reasons in a Kansas City Star column that ran on Sunday.

The Times and SI can kiss my ass. Jayson Blair worked at The Times. Mike Price won a lawsuit against SI for the lies the magazine published about him. And years ago, an SI writer wrote a profile about me for the Columbia Journalism Review and, among other journalistic crimes, lifted a quote from an old column and passed it off as something I said to him.

Never trust a publication. Hell, the more prestigious the publication, the more pressure there is for the writers to cut corners in pursuit of a good story.

Place your trust in the writer. And Roberts' reaction to the exoneration of the Duke lacrosse players calls into question her credibility. By refusing to acknowledge her mistakes in the Duke case, she creates the impression that her agenda trumps the truth.

"First of all (Jason) needs to go back and read the columns that I wrote about Duke lacrosse," she said. "It doesn't exactly jibe with what he's saying now. I have always separated what the crime was ... and what the culture was. It didn't have to rise to the level of a crime to rise to the level of a column. And I wrote about the culture at Duke, and there's no doubt about that. I stand by that today."

She later added: "What I did about Duke is I separated the criminal investigation from a culture. Now we know what is irrefutable about that night. These women had pornographic pictures taken of them and distributed on the Internet. These women had racial slurs yelled at them. That is indisputable. There were broomsticks waved at them. That is indisputable. The issues that happened that night, separate from the crime, were in my opinion — and people can disagree with this — were worth writing about."

Here's what's also indisputable: At no time in her original Duke lacrosse-bashing column did she mention anything about pornographic pictures, racial slurs or broomsticks waved at strippers. She wrote about rape, robbery, strangulation and a hate crime. You can read the column for yourself below.

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/sports/31roberts.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=

You can read a detailed analysis of Roberts' many Duke lacrosse errors at:

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FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Bio hazard: A-Rod author has credibility issues

 

[televisionarchives]

And Arod wants us to trust him. Right. Arod, Go ahead and go after her for slander. I dare you. Until it's proven false I will believe Selena Roberts. Arod is a liar about his whole career. Many already believe he used Steroids as a Yankee. They try to deflect the truth about Arod by attacking a whole different subject with Selena Roberts. She's made mistakes , that's for sure but so far she's 100 percent right about Arod.

Arod came out in a press conference and didn't even tell the whole truth about his Steroid use after getting caught.

 

[salsadancer7]

And Arod wants us to trust him. Right. Arod, Go ahead and go after her for slander. I dare you. Until it's proven false I will believe Selena Roberts. Arod is a liar about his whole career. Many already believe he used Steroids as a Yankee. They try to deflect the truth about Arod by attacking a whole different subject with Selena Roberts. She's made mistakes , that's for sure but so far she's 100 percent right about Arod.

Arod came out in a press conference and didn't even tell the whole truth about his Steroid use after getting caught.

LMAO! This is about HER credibililty...WHO is trying to defelct NOW?

 

[anders5189]

You want to defend A Rod at all costs don't you?

 

[televisionarchives]

LMAO! This is about HER credibililty...WHO is trying to defelct NOW?

Would you like me to list the number of false stories in every newspaper written by every writer? It happens. But if you want to list the lies with what Selena Roberts has said and Arod I will bet that with Selena Roberts hasn't told one false thing about Arod. But Arod has told many about her. . Nobody is perfect . People make mistakes. But they keep up bringing up the Duke story. That's all they have . They won't address the book .

I believe it . Why ? Because Arod is a liar.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Congrats Salsa!! You managed to find someone who supports your view. :up

 

[televisionarchives]

Many like to say that Jose Canseco was 100 percent with his books. He wasn't .Canseco has two paragraphs in his book about Clemens' apparent marital integrity, saying that Clemens was "one of the very few baseball players I know who never cheated on his wife." (p.91) That proved to be false.

Now many might ask why do I believe Selena Roberts? Because I see what Arod is doing to try to knock her off message. When he continue to lie about his steroid us and lied about Selena Roberts I knew she had more. I bet Arod knows who told her as well.

 

[HD MM]

I have ZERO respect for both Selena and A-Rod.

Selena lost me with the Canary act she's pulling and the attention W* that she's become. A-Rod lost me by making wrong decisions that were against the integrity of the game.

 

[televisionarchives]

The Yankees have enough problems trying to win games and fill seats. $2600 for a lower seat at Yankee Stadium. Yikes! I wonder if they knew all this stuff about Arod if they would have signed him to the long term contract. I think not.

 

[Jimbo]

Many like to say that Jose Canseco was 100 percent with his books. He wasn't .Canseco has two paragraphs in his book about Clemens' apparent marital integrity, saying that Clemens was "one of the very few baseball players I know who never cheated on his wife." (p.91) That proved to be false.

Now many might ask why do I believe Selena Roberts? Because I see what Arod is doing to try to knock her off message. When he continue to lie about his steroid us and lied about Selena Roberts I knew she had more. I bet Arod knows who told her as well.

I just wish the OTHER 99 or so players names would come out, I think it's stupid for everyone to bash A-rod for all this when he's only a very small part of it ...
He's taking the blame for all of them so far.

 

[Jimbo]

Many like to say that Jose Canseco was 100 percent with his books. He wasn't .Canseco has two paragraphs in his book about Clemens' apparent marital integrity, saying that Clemens was "one of the very few baseball players I know who never cheated on his wife." (p.91) That proved to be false.

Now many might ask why do I believe Selena Roberts? Because I see what Arod is doing to try to knock her off message. When he continue to lie about his steroid us and lied about Selena Roberts I knew she had more. I bet Arod knows who told her as well.

So you believe everything Conseco says eh. ....

I wonder how Mr. Conseco would have been had someone else come out with this book before Conseco did, stating that HE did steroids , I'm sure he would have denied it too.

 

[salsadancer7]

You want to defend A Rod at all costs don't you?

Not really....I just think that after she basically wanted the Duke Lacrosse team sent to the chair.....her investigative reporting has to be taken with a grain of salt. She had scientific proof leaked to her to back her story about A-Rod....I give her that. But what proof she has of him giving signs to opposing players other than some people that may have hated A-Rod in Texas??!! Do they have video? How about the accusers? I mean giving signs to the opposing team is WORSE than PEDs and WORSE than gambling(to me)...those are MIGHTY accusations....why won't someone man up and say "I saw him do and it and I have proof"?

 

[salsadancer7]

Many like to say that Jose Canseco was 100 percent with his books. He wasn't .Canseco has two paragraphs in his book about Clemens' apparent marital integrity, saying that Clemens was "one of the very few baseball players I know who never cheated on his wife." (p.91) That proved to be false.

Now many might ask why do I believe Selena Roberts? Because I see what Arod is doing to try to knock her off message. When he continue to lie about his steroid us and lied about Selena Roberts I knew she had more. I bet Arod knows who told her as well.

I don't know of ONE PERSON that has said he was 100% right. But he was telling alot more truth than alot of players were....and he sure as sh** has shown to have alot more credibility than most that have written a book. He maybe scum, but he has shown he was not too far off from the truth.

As far as him thinking Clemens cheated on his wife....a couple of things: 1st of all, MAYBE....oh, I don't know, MAYBE Canseco never SAW HIM cheat on his wife when they were teammates or infront of of him. 2nd, what the HELL does Clemens chaeting on his wife have ANYTHING to do with baseball??!!!

 

[salsadancer7]

I just wish the OTHER 99 or so players names would come out, I think it's stupid for everyone to bash A-rod for all this when he's only a very small part of it ...
He's taking the blame for all of them so far.

It has been said that Bonds, Giambi and A-Rod were the BIGGER names on that list. I am willing to bet there are plenty people in the media who know or even have the list....but when mess with little fish when you want the bigger fish??!!

 

[anders5189]

I don't know of ONE PERSON that has said he was 100% right. But he was telling alot more truth than alot of players were....and he sure as sh** has shown to have alot more credibility than most that have written a book. He maybe scum, but he has shown he was not too far off from the truth.

That's how I feel about this A Rod deal. This reporter that you hate, sure she wasn't an ex GF, is probably shooting pretty close to the center of the target. She may be no Bob Woodward, but it probably doesn't take a Bob Woodward to nail a dope like A Rod. Does anyone believe A Rod when he says he ONLY used steroids while he played for Texas? That sounds like one of Pete Rose's lame excuses about betting on baseball.

 

[salsadancer7]

I have ZERO respect for both Selena and A-Rod.

Selena lost me with the Canary act she's pulling and the attention W* that she's become. A-Rod lost me by making wrong decisions that were against the integrity of the game.

They BOTH have credibility issues with me.....him a liar and her willing to do ANYTHING to restore SOME face after the major screw up in the Duke fiasco. This line says it all from the article:

Never trust a publication. Hell, the more prestigious the publication, the more pressure there is for the writers to cut corners in pursuit of a good story.

Place your trust in the writer. And Roberts' reaction to the exoneration of the Duke lacrosse players calls into question her credibility. By refusing to acknowledge her mistakes in the Duke case, she creates the impression that her agenda trumps the truth.

 

[salsadancer7]

That's how I feel about this A Rod deal. This reporter that you hate, sure she wasn't an ex GF, is probably shooting pretty close to the center of the target. She may be no Bob Woodward, but it probably doesn't take a Bob Woodward to nail a dope like A Rod. Does anyone believe A Rod when he says he ONLY used steroids while he played for Texas? That sounds like one of Pete Rose's lame excuses about betting on baseball.

I don't hate....I just do not trust her.....she wanted to have a bunch of lacrosse players do hard time for something they never did. I have dealt with WAY too ambitious reporters before and they are ugly....ESPECIALLY when they are trying to make a name for themselves or make people forget a major screw-up.

Maybe you like it because ONE, you hate A-Rod and TWO she did something negative about Duke....

 

[televisionarchives]

I just wish the OTHER 99 or so players names would come out, I think it's stupid for everyone to bash A-rod for all this when he's only a very small part of it ...
He's taking the blame for all of them so far.

You know what? I don't believe there are as many players as we are being told. I believe the list of players includes players tested more then once. Could be like 60 or so. And I have a good source for that.

 

[Jimbo]

It has been said that Bonds, Giambi and A-Rod were the BIGGER names on that list. I am willing to bet there are plenty people in the media who know or even have the list....but when mess with little fish when you want the bigger fish??!!

There are others that are just as well known.

 

[anders5189]

Maybe you like it because ONE, you hate A-Rod and TWO she did something negative about Duke....

I don't really care about A Rod that much. I hate Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens way more. Also I didn't know anything about this reporter's background. I just don't think you can ignore everything she's saying. Most of it is probably true. But since you did bring up the dook connection maybe I will stick up for her more. She can't be THAT bad.