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Hi I have a question on splitters to be used to slave my cband receiver to my pansat...

I there a problem using a Splitter 5-3000 MHz or is absolutely necessary to use a 5-2400MHz or 5-2300MHz? does it make any difference?
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Thanks to all of you for your responses.
In conclusion best to do is to use a HF splitter (better 2300 MHz) to slave a C band receiver with a Pansat.

There are a few concerns after the discussion above:

1- I read in other posts the use of loop out to slave my Pansat, however I have the high definition module installed and the loop out is used...so I guess this option is discarded in this case... correct?

2- I searched the operation of a slaved receivers and did not find it so I my questions is about operation of this two receivers while slaved... what can I do with each to control.. This is assuming I do the normal slave and not using loop out!

- DSR922- is it only to control movement of the dish to set it to desired satellite? also to manage sub channels? anything else?

- Pansat 9200HD - will I be able to hange channels and still control (polarity) feedhorn/lnb? Can I still watch subbed channels includding HD?

Is there anything I would be able to do do with each or a recommended operation.


I am using... 240cm Fortec Star, ADL-RP3-CKu, PAT-8115 and PAT-4106A Lnbs

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B.J.
After doing the above experimentation, and typing the message, I went to tune a PBS channel on Ku. NOTHING. I tried several channels from 4 different LNBs, and NOTHING. Fooey, I thought, the darn diseqC switch kicked the bucket. I went out with a meter and a replacement. Started to replace the switch, but first put the meter on the line from the receiver..... no voltage coming from the receiver!?!?
Went back inside, intending to pull the line from the receiver off the splitter I have there, which sends the signal to a slave receiver. I looked at the floor where the splitter was, and all there was were 3 coaxes laying on the floor. Then I looked in my pocket, and there was the splitter. Ya see, I didn't have a spare 2 way splitter to do my tests above, so I pulled the splitter off Ku band, and used that to test C-band in the previous message. But I forgot to put the switch back on the Ku line. :o I guess that destroys any credibility I have left relative to knowing what I'm doing, as I just wasted an hour trying to troubleshoot a problem I caused myself.
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One port power pass high freq splitters work fine I have the 4 way on both c/ku on my system. RPS Satellite

The slave kit comes with a 2 way, I gave them away and grabbed two 4 ways a few months ago as I added receivers. Never had any issues.
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No a very goog move B.J. that was a good set of tries experimenting bu sometimes mess too much around and ther you have a mistake... I feel sorry about your wasted hour troubleshoot and problem caused. Good start anyways...

But need a na answer on my questions! Anyone please:D



Thanks to all of you for your responses.
In conclusion best to do is to use a HF splitter (better 2300 MHz) to slave a C band receiver with a Pansat.

There are a few concerns after the discussion above:

1- I read in other posts the use of loop out to slave my Pansat, however I have the high definition module installed and the loop out is used...so I guess this option is discarded in this case... correct?

2- I searched the operation of a slaved receivers and did not find it so I my questions is about operation of this two receivers while slaved... what can I do with each to control.. This is assuming I do the normal slave and not using loop out!

- DSR922- is it only to control movement of the dish to set it to desired satellite? also to manage sub channels? anything else?

- Pansat 9200HD - will I be able to hange channels and still control (polarity) feedhorn/lnb? Can I still watch subbed channels includding HD?

Is there anything I would be able to do do with each or a recommended operation.


I am using... 240cm Fortec Star, ADL-RP3-CKu, PAT-8115 and PAT-4106A Lnbs

TX
B.J.
Thanks to all of you for your responses.
In conclusion best to do is to use a HF splitter (better 2300 MHz) to slave a C band receiver with a Pansat.

There are a few concerns after the discussion above:

1- I read in other posts the use of loop out to slave my Pansat, however I have the high definition module installed and the loop out is used...so I guess this option is discarded in this case... correct?
I'm a bit confused re the question here. I *THINK* you're confusing connections on a 4DTV as being loop outs, and I think you're confusing suggestions above referring to using loop with respect to what is slaving what. But basically you have a few options, ie
(1) slave the Pansat to the analog. To do this, you need splitters, and have the 922 control both dish movement and polarity and power the LNBs, and the Pansat will just be able to tune on whatever sat and polarity that the 922 was viewing.
(2) Slave the 922 to the Pansat. Since you have a feedhorn with polarotor, if you do this, you'll still need to control the dish and polarity via the 922, but you can control the LNBs via the pansat, and feed the signal from the pansat to the 922 via the loopthru on the Pansat. It shouldn't matter what you have connected to the 922 in the way of HD or anything as the line from the Pansat's loop will just go in where the coax from the lnb normally went in. However this will also mean you'll need a diseqC switch at the input of the Pansat to select C/Ku, and then the 922 wouldn't be getting Ku through it's Ku port, so that will confuse it's operation. For this reason, the use of the loop thru is really only convenient if you're not planning to use Ku on the 922. If you want Ku on the 922, then it's probably best to use splitters even if slaving the 922 to the Pansat. However, you'll still have the problem that you'll have to tune the Pansat to either C or Ku to watch those bands on the 922, because the Pansat won't be powering the band it's not watching. When you slave the pansat to the 922, the 922 will be powering both C and Ku, so you can watch either band on the Pansat regardless of what you have tuned in on the 922. For that reason, I think it's really easier to just slave the Pansat to the 922..... but it really depends on how you intend to use everything.
2- I searched the operation of a slaved receivers and did not find it so I my questions is about operation of this two receivers while slaved... what can I do with each to control.. This is assuming I do the normal slave and not using loop out!
I hit on this above, but basically the slave receiver needs to watch whatever sat and polarity you're watching with the master receiver. Genenerally you can't control much except channels with the slave.
- DSR922- is it only to control movement of the dish to set it to desired satellite? also to manage sub channels? anything else?
The 922 can view analog and DCII channels which the Pansat cannot tune. The 922 will control polarity via odd/even channels, and will provide power to the LNBs.
- Pansat 9200HD - will I be able to hange channels and still control (polarity) feedhorn/lnb? Can I still watch subbed channels includding HD?
If you slave the Pansat to the 922, the 922 will do everything as it did before.
Is there anything I would be able to do do with each or a recommended operation.
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Not sure what you're asking here, but as I said, the 922 operation will stay the same. To use the Pansat, however, you need to first move the 922 to the satellite you want and to the proper polarity needed for the channels you want to watch.

I don't have a 922, but have another analog C/Ku receiver. I slave 3 FTA receivers off the analog receiver using a splitter AND the passthru on one of the FTA receivers, but I have the Ku from the BUD slaved to one of my FTA receivers. So there are many, many options, some quite complicated. But the simple way to start is to use splitters to slave the Pansat to the 922, either using the high freq rated sat splitters with the power pass going to the 922, or by using cheap TV splitters with a separate DC block on the line to the Pansat.
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I installed 5-3000MHz splitters X 2 and a diseqc and now scanning pretty good... started searching all channels. I will hook up another HD receiver Nfusion and see how it goes. Thanks for your response BJ
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
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add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
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Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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However, when I make a change (tried to add the Columbian pack for $2 so I could generate my bill) and there is a new line - it says "Access for TV" - whereas previously that line item was not there. I hope they aren't charging $5.00 for the initial TV now...

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Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
zippyfrog
Apparently it's not an "owned receiver" fee but rather an extension fee that's applied to 2nd and subsequent viewing. Maybe that played into their decision to force a box at every TV- garnering those fees
Possibly. In theory, $9 of the base pack has a rental fee built in. But now is this $5 a chance to get a little more? I don't know for sure. According to chat, it is a glitch and will be resolved in a timely manner, but we shall see. Part of my thinks there is a going to be a new charge, whether it is now or this fall. Here in Illinois, the law requires we are given 30 days notice of any fee changes, but I have not been given anything.

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These fees are why streaming has caught on so well across the country and DISH is losing subs each quarter. Soon won't be enough subs to be profitable.
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Does cable charge box rent?
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With the 1st Quarter Report just released, Dish lost another 180,000, now at 4.84 Million.

Sling now at 1.79 million subscribers, down approximately 190,000.

For comparison, YouTube TV now has about double the subscribers of Dish and Sling combined.

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fmj77
I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
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I'm surprised Dish still has that many subscribers. I don't know a single person in my area that is still with them after getting either Starlink or fiber at their home. They all cancelled Dish and went with streaming. I used to get offers pretty regularly in the mail to come back to Dish, but no more. Haven't seen one in a couple of years now.
Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
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Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
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I despise that most of all. I'm going to talk to a remote?
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nelson61
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
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MikeD-C05
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
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