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HughesNet is currently rolling back their systems, starting in mid Feb they are going to have their installers start installing KU band 7000s systems. I have installed a few 7000 systems and well over a 1000 9000 systems. The biggest reason for installation purposes I like the 9k better is the fine tuner adjustments that take up the weight of the dish for pointing. I salvaged part of a fine tuner off a 2 watt commercial system I upgraded, but it does not fit on the current model 7000 AZ/EL mounts. Does anyone know where I can purchase one of the elevation brackets that I can use to aid in the pointing process? I can only find 2 online retailers that carry and they are both sold out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Nick
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Will or can hughesnet upgrade their equipment to compete with this new exede ?
Stargazer
Hughesnet plans on launching their improved service for 12 MB as well. Is the 9200 for that or is there going to be a whole different system? If a whole different system is required then why now release a 9200?
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Hughesnet plans on launching their improved service for 12 MB as well. Is the 9200 for that or is there going to be a whole different system? If a whole different system is required then why now release a 9200?
The 9200 is described as a Ka/Ku modem, but it operates in the L-band. So the frequencies between the dish and the satellite are immaterial. What's important is that it's compatible with the gateway on the other end. 9200 modems are currently being installed for access via Spaceway3, which makes it a simple matter down the road to simply turn the dish to the new Jupiter1. Current Spaceway3 customers with HN9000 modems will probably have to simply change modems to take advantage of a Jupiter upgrade. Ku-band customers however, will almost certainly have to replace everything - if they want the Jupiter upgrade.

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AlanRT
Here is a reply I received from my distributor to my question about 9200s:
These are AMC 15 modems - used in the East in areas that Hughes is using the AMC-15 satellite for fulfillment orders - ALL DEALERS ORDERS IN THE US ARE ON SPACEWAY and use the 9000
From a HughesNet Rep:
HN9200 & HN9400 --First, they're both dual band modems, with the 9400 having some additional features & capabilities. Both are targeted at enterprise use in situations requiring high QoS, multi applications, high speeds, VLAN tagging ,etc. The exclusive market so far is hub operators, with most of the sales taking place offshore and outside US.

Neither of these modems will work with the HX shared service hubs Hughes offers in N. America. The hubs have to be configured to support these modems, and our N. American Hubs are not equipped to support them. Frankly, there's no reason to run a dual band modem when a single band (i.e. Ku modem) such as an HX-50, HX-200 will suffice and at a lower price point. The only Ka band we run in N. America is Spaceway, which is only US and uses its own modems, so a dual band modem doesn't help much unless you're using both Ka & Ku capacity, and further that the hubs can support the Hughes modems.

If you have potential customers showing up with these modems, in all likelihood they procured them through a private hub operator, or alternatively grey market. Regardless, these modems won't work on our N. American HX constellation and are therefore useless. That said, even if our shared hubs were modified to support, you'd still run into issues with encryption keys as these would have been issued to the hub operator when they procured the HN modems, and it's highly unlikely that they'll be willing to enable the modems when they no longer have the customer.

So, the short answer is that the customer has a nice paperweight, unless they can work a deal with the original hub operator to take the unit back or reassign it.
I noticed some Mexican retailer/distributors are offering 9200-based systems. So must assume they are HughesNet-approved VARs/Shared Hub operators in Mexico operating on a Ku Hub. The manual for the 9200 contained a screen shot showing SatMex 5 listed in a System Info page example.

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grohgreg
The distributor response is clearly limited to current installs. You know perfectly well that the default satellites change as loading changes. He side-stepped the fact that the HN9200 can be technically used on quite a few satellites, provided that there's a HN-configured gateway at the other end. I've attached a HN9200 spec sheet for your review.

That Hughes rep paste contains some rather significant contradictions and mis-statements. I get the impression it was from a sales rep, as opposed to a tech rep. He clearly doesn't understand the meaning of "dual band". It's either/or, not both. And he's done a pretty good job of confusing/intermingling HN-facts with HX-facts. I get the distinct impression that this fella works on the business/enterprise/government side of the Hughes house, and doesn't realize things aren't all the same over on the consumer side.

You already provided 50% of the "dual band" example in that attachment. SatMex5 is in fact a Ku-only satellite. The other 50% is the statement that HN9200s are being installed on AMC15. What was missing is that they're being installed on the Ka-component of AMC15. So the 9200 can be used over either Ka- or Ku-. Dual Band. Hence, there's no reason they can't be used over Spaceway3 as well, provided that the distant NOC has a HN9200 compatible gateway.

Back to your attachment though, note the Frequency. "1170" is the L-band frequency (in MHz) between the IDU and the ODU. Doesn't matter a lick to the modem whether the ODU is Ku- or Ka-, as long as the gateway to which the modem connects is compatible (here's where the HN and the HX come into play).

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View attachment HN9200_H43295_A4_LR.pdf
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Not a good inning… Kavan coming on could be the nail.
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Better team won tonight…
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Well crap. That wasn't fun. Oh well on to the CFL opener on cbs sportsnet.
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"In the end, there can be only one" - Duncan MacCleod of the clan MacCleod
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... :D and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
Happy to see that DTV Stream will finally line up fully with the DTV Satellite 4K content and Channel Guide.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
They turned them on today !
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They turned them on today !
I see in the 4K Channels Guide that the Telemundo WC games will be airing in 4K. I believe this is the first time ever we will have Spanish-language broadcasts in 4K (in the USA). Did not happen during the last World Cup in Qatar 2022.
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4K telemundo working !

406 still SD here in Norfolk Va 📡
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
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Right on Time - Brandi Carlile
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Time Stand Still - Rush
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I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas
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Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Pork shoulder, refried beans, cheddar and chopped green chile burrito with a pint of pale ale.

Its nice being able to have a pint with lunch during the week or whenever. I've been enjoying the retired life. 🍺

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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
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Congrats! I love retirement, no wake ups, no e-mails...
Leftovers for lunch, bacon wrapped salmon fillet from Saturday and a KFC thigh from Friday, Tea.
I've been retired since October. It was very strange at first. But I'm loving it now.
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Creamy flat chicken enchiladas with green chile, beans and rice.

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Layered Spicy Dorito / chili cheese Frito pie casserole…real sugar Pepsi
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I had a very unusual but delicious 1/4lb hotdog with cream cheese, raspberry preserves and chopped Hatch green chile. It is an unlikely combination but it works.


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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

primestar31
According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

Many of these in my DMA are on cell towers, so don't always reach very far because the towers aren't very high.
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