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. Raine

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Last reply Oct 5, 2014 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

200' - 250' cable run?

I just picked up a 12' dish and I'm going to set that up in place of my 9' Radio Shack dish. I'm going to take the RS dish and set it up for my parents next door and it looks like the cable run will be between 200' - 250'. Is this too far?
I'll be using a V Box 7 to move the dish.

I could put the V Box in the new garage and cut the length of the motor wires down to about 50' but the coax will have to be the 200' to 250' still. Correct gauge wire of course, I'm not going to use cheap crappy wire and I'm thinking RG11 for the coax.

I can't really move the dish closer because my parents live down a hill from me and have tons of trees in the LOS almost all the way across the arc, it'd be a major pain to get it any closer.

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ancient

Sep 22, 2014

There actually is another way that is more work but has additional benefits.

The first thing is to get you and your parents on a common shared LAN. You can do this by running a fiber optic cable from your house to theirs. This may initially be a bit more expensive than RG-11, but not that much more once you figure in all the costs, including the costs of lightning/ground loop protection. You can use this to share Internet or just to send video, that is up to you. If you only use it for video then only the

Then you set up some kind of home theater PC for your parents, preferably running Kodi/XBMC. This could be something as simple as a Raspberry Pi running RaspBMC or XBian or a similar program, but you are likely going to want something capable of handling higher bitrate streams, and the Raspberry Pi just doesn't quite cut it. By the way, I do NOT personally recommend OpenELEC unless you have no Linux experience at all, because the inability to do common Linux tasks will frustrate you to no end. Something like a CuBox-i might work but I can't say for sure. If they will be trying to watch any high bitrate feeds then something even more hefty in the video processing department might be needed. I really haven't fully researched the newer devices so can't say much more about it.

And then you need a backend system, and for that you can either use something like a TBS MOI+ with an attached SATA drive, using the included TVHeadEnd software, or you can build your own backend. If you go that route I'd suggest running Debian or Ubuntu, and a TBS tuner card, unless you are a true Linux guru, in which case there are many more options open to you - not necessarily better ones, just additional ones. And use the latest TVHeadEnd unstable release for the backend software - unfortunately the latest stable version is rather dated and apparently does not contain support for certain aspects of DVB-S/S2 reception. Whether you buy something like a MOI+ or build your own, the MOI+ article I linked to gives some installation tips for TVHeadEnd that may prove useful. If you do build your own backend and use a TBS card, you will have to install the TBS drivers which does involve a compilation step, but the instructions are pretty clear.

Then you put the backend inside your home, and run your coax from your satellite LNB to the tuner card. Then you use XBMC to watch the signal live, or schedule recordings (you can also schedule recordings via the TVHeadEnd web-based interface) which can be watched later. If you and your parents want to watch the same show, just agree that neither of you will delete it until you know the other has watched it. The obvious advantage is that both you and your parents can watch the live or recorded programs from any room in your home where you have a computer, which could be a home theater PC connected to a HDTV set, as mentioned above. It's just a much more flexible solution.

Plus, you avoid the very real issue of running copper between homes that may be at different ground potentials. If you decide to go that route, please use a very good lightning protector at each end; the article I linked to on running fiber explains why, and one of the comments in that article expands on it a bit more. And on that fiber run you can connect to gigabit Ethernet at both ends and use the full speed of the connection, and unless you physically damage the fiber or one of the fiber converters fails, it will probably work well past the point where the technology is obsolete. And once the satellite signal hits the tuner in your home, there will be no additional degradation of signal between your home and your parents' home.

There also the option to use a tuner card with multiple inputs, and/or LNBs with dual outputs, if you think you and your parents might want to watch different transponders off the same satellite at the same time.

It does take more effort at the beginning to do it this way, but if you and your parents both get addicted to free-to-air satellite TV, you will be really glad you made the effort!

P.S. As a bonus, if either of you has a decent TV antenna that picks up OTA channels, you can probably add them into the mix by adding a HDHomeRun Dual to the network that the TVHeadEnd backend is connected to - I say "probably" because I am not 100% sure it can be done, although if not, there is doubtless some other ATSC tuner that will work. But, a HDHomeRun device could be at either house, since it will send the signals over the network to the backend. If you have the better antenna, then you have the option to use any TVHeadEnd-compatible HDTV tuner card in your computer.

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richyrich

Sep 22, 2014

over 100 feet of cable needs a testable wire sized for the distance; involves system level wire (like a good commscope copper and 10, 12, 20 at gauges; each for the functional length and voltage/amperage required at the dish; 24 vdc motor; 5 vdc sensor; 18/14 vdc sw; 22 khz; etc.. Electrically RATED! Most coaxes will go to 200-350 feet and beyond, but the receivers (V Box) PS may also overwork a little more than normal; or not be able to supply.
If the wrong wire is installed; the motor may move slower,

but enough amperage to move a heavy dish may not be available and other "voltage problems" can also occur. Copper/Zinc coax goes to 300-400 feet however; and the scene at the receiver just shows a lower signal level with the same quality.

This allows a 4dtv receiver to provide the same great pictures at a low input level (-32) in t of analogue he old days; because on one side is it's ability to go over 300 feet easily at the coax; and keep a full analogue bandwidth (20) as signal and level; while at the same time being able to make a large number of channels digitally from the same bandwidth; very sensitive tuner and 10-20 channels are accrued digitally for each analogue bandwidth!

but with today's PS designed with such small bandwidth aggressions; the system only responds to the ability for the quality to be achieved; system level multi-pointing using motors is really just that; the need for the same preciseness IN WIRE AND SIZE REQUIRED; and it IS THE PIE (POWER formula)...The problems then are the required sizes! The coax and the motor wire then is the type and size!

. Raine

Sep 24, 2014

ancient said:
There actually is another way that is more work but has additional benefits.

The first thing is to get you and your parents on a common shared LAN. You can do this by running a fiber optic cable from your house to theirs. This may initially be a bit more expensive than RG-11, but not that much more once you figure in all the costs, including the costs of lightning/ground loop protection. You can use this to share Internet or just to send video, that is up to you. If you only use it for video then only the

Then you set up some kind of home theater PC for your parents, preferably running Kodi/XBMC. This could be something as simple as a Raspberry Pi running RaspBMC or XBian or a similar program, but you are likely going to want something capable of handling higher bitrate streams, and the Raspberry Pi just doesn't quite cut it. By the way, I do NOT personally recommend OpenELEC unless you have no Linux experience at all, because the inability to do common Linux tasks will frustrate you to no end. Something like a CuBox-i might work but I can't say for sure. If they will be trying to watch any high bitrate feeds then something even more hefty in the video processing department might be needed. I really haven't fully researched the newer devices so can't say much more about it.

And then you need a backend system, and for that you can either use something like a TBS MOI+ with an attached SATA drive, using the included TVHeadEnd software, or you can build your own backend. If you go that route I'd suggest running Debian or Ubuntu, and a TBS tuner card, unless you are a true Linux guru, in which case there are many more options open to you - not necessarily better ones, just additional ones. And use the latest TVHeadEnd unstable release for the backend software - unfortunately the latest stable version is rather dated and apparently does not contain support for certain aspects of DVB-S/S2 reception. Whether you buy something like a MOI+ or build your own, the MOI+ article I linked to gives some installation tips for TVHeadEnd that may prove useful. If you do build your own backend and use a TBS card, you will have to install the TBS drivers which does involve a compilation step, but the instructions are pretty clear.

Then you put the backend inside your home, and run your coax from your satellite LNB to the tuner card. Then you use XBMC to watch the signal live, or schedule recordings (you can also schedule recordings via the TVHeadEnd web-based interface) which can be watched later. If you and your parents want to watch the same show, just agree that neither of you will delete it until you know the other has watched it. The obvious advantage is that both you and your parents can watch the live or recorded programs from any room in your home where you have a computer, which could be a home theater PC connected to a HDTV set, as mentioned above. It's just a much more flexible solution.

Plus, you avoid the very real issue of running copper between homes that may be at different ground potentials. If you decide to go that route, please use a very good lightning protector at each end; the article I linked to on running fiber explains why, and one of the comments in that article expands on it a bit more. And on that fiber run you can connect to gigabit Ethernet at both ends and use the full speed of the connection, and unless you physically damage the fiber or one of the fiber converters fails, it will probably work well past the point where the technology is obsolete. And once the satellite signal hits the tuner in your home, there will be no additional degradation of signal between your home and your parents' home.

There also the option to use a tuner card with multiple inputs, and/or LNBs with dual outputs, if you think you and your parents might want to watch different transponders off the same satellite at the same time.

It does take more effort at the beginning to do it this way, but if you and your parents both get addicted to free-to-air satellite TV, you will be really glad you made the effort!

P.S. As a bonus, if either of you has a decent TV antenna that picks up OTA channels, you can probably add them into the mix by adding a HDHomeRun Dual to the network that the TVHeadEnd backend is connected to - I say "probably" because I am not 100% sure it can be done, although if not, there is doubtless some other ATSC tuner that will work. But, a HDHomeRun device could be at either house, since it will send the signals over the network to the backend. If you have the better antenna, then you have the option to use any TVHeadEnd-compatible HDTV tuner card in your computer.

I'm not looking to connect our two houses together, they already get my OTA stations, stations off one of my dishes, internet access and Netflix through our network via wi-fi connection and a media center and that's been working good for years, so I'm good there. I want to set this dish up as a normal setup for them, it just would have to have the long cable run for the coax.

Right now I have two Hauppauge HVR1600 ATSC tuners, a HDHomeRun dual ATSC tuner and the one dish that they use over the network via a X Box 360 as an extender to a media center PC. In the past [Quite a few years ago now] I've tried different things like XBMC, MythTV, etc, but it was annoying because things would change often and I'd have to fiddle with things a lot. The changes sometimes would really screw up my dad too, simple things like push this button on the remote for the guide rather than this one can take him weeks to learn, his memory isn't so great anymore, him and my mom are in their late seventies. My mom is good with the stuff and has no problem but he does if things change. There was one time, I think it was when I was using Myth, that the system went down and my dad called the cable company complaining that the TV went out, he'd forgotten that the TV comes from my house. That was funny, my Mom was gone and when she came home he asked her to call the cable company because they'd given him the run around and she told him they didn't have cable, he didn't believe her. When I got home from work he called me and asked me to call. Told him we didn't have cable but I'd take care of it. When the TV came back on for them in a bit he tells my mom that I must've called the cable company and gave them a good talking to. That was years ago and he still think they have cable TV. Lucky for the cable company, the system setup now very rarely has any issues that cuts out TV on them.

The XBMC was nice, I'd used an original X Box running Linux as a frontend to a Ubuntu setup with XBMC on it, but all the changes all the time stunk. I'd have it all setup and working so it's just like using a regular TV for them and then something would be changed in XBMC or Ubuntu and I have to mess with things. Myth and a few others I tried were the same. Compiling drivers and such for Linux isn't a problem at all, but having to fiddle with things all the time because the program has been updated or something broken because of an update is a PITA.

When I originally did the wi-fi setup ten or so years ago, I'd never even thought of using fiber. I will read up on it and might do it, depending on how expensive it will be, there would be some benefits to it if it isn't real expensive. I would have to lay about 150' more of pipe to do it too, but I do have the equipment to do that. Thanks for posting this, it's not what I want for this dish but for my existing setup, I like the idea of fiber and am going to check into it more.

richyrich

Sep 25, 2014

Wireless networking with lines of site are being used at up to 20 miles; but these are Providers signals; the main being a transceiver, which can put out foundational networking aggression compared to the normal distances just a "route". Wiring from a transceiver to a controlled motor, switch, or say voltage change is done using RC and a remote code already hardwired as wireless signal and function. Hardwire like optical sits at a full video bandwidth (say 1 Gb); multi-channel and carried to a switch, say from Verizon; that is then sent via coax to the home. These boxes already do this!

A satellite receiver however, is a 1000 Gb x 2 polarity; just at downconverted frequency; and needs nothing else (no transceiver); choosing; one of the pieces of the bandwidth for "the channel" it then shows on the HDTV. Netflix, Hulu, and the rest of the server formations already have "bandwidth" selected then shows on HDTV as their progression.

The dish can be set-up WITH CORRECT WIRE AND SYSTEM DESIGN at 1/2 mile or more using amps bringing the pictures so far over coax; and using a phone and wire as the control; it seems too spendy to reach for glass. They have a way to see the signals from multi-dishes over networking; but if you want to outdo them all; you might as well invent a cable company that wants localized reception; only backwards; that is using a transceiver at the consumers home. Who's picture is it that must be bought then? And whose picture is it? These details are privately held; and defined Only For Those They Say Can; And Only The "Way" They Say They Can gets in the way.

Cham

Oct 5, 2014

Sometimes the cable companies have reel ends of RG11 you might get for free or pennies on the dollar. You might have to know someone there though...

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Ramy

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Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Today at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Today at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Today at 5:45 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

This will be a SAD DAY when this passes ....

They complained the last year that we had a bunch of Blow Outs in the Playoffs ... heres an idea, lets Double the amount of teams and hope for Closer games ... ya right.

This never should have went past 8 teams, 10 at the most.

Now, I have heard that play in games are being talked about, such as #13 plays #24 and so forth, to cut the field down (why cut it down, just don't expand it.)
I'm not sure exactly how thats going to work out or if it was just someone talking.

They were also talking about starting the Season earlier ...

I really don't like the National Championship game being the end of January ... if the Semi Finals are over New Years, thats fine with the Championship game the next week.

Jimbo

Today at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

49 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

38 minutes ago

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

34 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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ppappas

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Newest NCIS recording doesn't allow auto skip

On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

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Jimbo

Today at 9:45 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

IF you were referring to my post ...
Thats why I do all my Streaming Commercial FREE.

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Bobby

Today at 11:22 AM

Nebugeater said:
It is obviose some people do not know the diffornece between auto skip and FF

And there is a difference between fast forward and skip forwad....

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tanman

Today at 11:25 AM

With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

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Cold Irons

Today at 12:03 PM

tanman said:
With both CBS and Fox autohop (as we know) is not enabled for a week..But after 24 hours if you mash the FF button until the red kangaroo shows up in the bottom right you wont overshoot the program. No need to try to figure how long the break is.

Yep. We do this all the time, but we use the 30-sec skip forward button until the red kangaroo shows up. Love this feature.

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Jim5506

34 minutes ago

I'm a bit confused about the recording methods.
Do you havePrime Time Anytime enabled, by doing that you don't have to set recordings for Prime time programs on ABC, CBS, NBC or Fox stations, it's done daily, 7 days a week.
And only 2 weeks recordings are saved, no deletions either.

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"MysteryMan"

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Last reply 51 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Windows 10/11 Download

I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.

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EarDemon

Tuesday at 9:43 PM

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Tuesday at 9:59 PM

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Yesterday at 10:12 PM

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

EarDemon

Today at 10:07 AM

I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.

HipKat

Today at 10:32 AM

EarDemon said:
it's just not the right solution for me.

As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

harshness

Today at 11:18 AM

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Today at 8:55 PM

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

51 minutes ago

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 9:00 PM · posted in TV Shows

NCIS: Origins

Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.

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dfergie

Today at 4:38 PM

Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

reubenray

Today at 4:48 PM

dfergie said:
Really good one with OG Gibbs bookending it...

Will the OG Gibbs be on NCIS or will Tony be on NCIS Origins?

dfergie

Today at 6:06 PM

Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

reubenray

Today at 7:23 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

I saw Gibbs walk into the door, but I did not see Tony.

Jimbo

Today at 8:41 PM

dfergie said:
Tony was there at the end of the episode with Gibbs.

Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

dfergie

Today at 9:00 PM

Jimbo said:
Tony was Not in this episode ... you may remember Gibbs walking into the office and those around Welcomed him home, Voices only.

If you also watch the Mothership, Tony has been in that one ...

I must have seen that in previews
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osu1991

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Today at 8:54 PM · posted in TV Shows

Frisco King - Paramount Plus

View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 8:45 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Bobby

Today at 11:19 AM

Kiss - The Art Of Noise

long_time_Dish

Today at 4:45 PM

Beautiful Noise - Neil Diamond

sdfntx

Today at 5:39 PM

White Noise - Jessie Baylin

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dishstaller

Today at 6:13 PM

White Rabbit - Jefferson Airplane

long_time_Dish

Today at 8:45 PM

White Sun - The Doobie Brothers

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dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 8:25 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Hughesnet cancelling email addresses

Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.

I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.

Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.

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Foxbat

Today at 2:37 PM

Doing a Google of the HughesNet Email notice, it seems that HughesNet has been trying to eliminate hosting emails since 2019. And with HughesNet filing Chapter 11 back in August, it would be a smart move to switch to a more stable Email provider. Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

SpaceX's Starlink and the Cellular 5G Home Internet solutions have pretty much relegated HughesNet and its high latency, low bandwidth Internet service to History. If Earth had shorter days, maybe a Geostationary Internet Solution might have stood a fighting chance…

navychop

Today at 3:16 PM

Foxbat said:
If Earth had shorter days,

Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

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Foxbat

Today at 3:30 PM

navychop said:
Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?

Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…

klang

Today at 4:21 PM

Foxbat said:
Even AT&T farmed out their Email to Yahoo! years ago.

I still have one of those although I've been trying to wean myself off it.

JSheridan

Today at 4:51 PM

Among my many email accounts I still have a .netscape.net which AOL assimilated a while back.

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EarDemon

Today at 8:25 PM

Yep, I got the notification a few days ago. I'm not totally surprised.

Never used the address for anything, so no big loss to me.

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 8:24 PM · posted in TV Shows

The Diplomat (Netflix)

Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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klang

Oct 16, 2025

Probably starting season 3 tonight.

meStevo

Oct 16, 2025

Finished it this evening. General impressions with no story spoilers, but will spoil it anyways as it just came out today.

Not quite as impactful of a finale as past seasons I thought, we'll see how far down the rabbit hole things go as the latest plot twists and turns unravel. Thought this season had a full episode or two too much rom-com style disagreements, but it was more or less paid off later. Ultimately didn't enjoy that being more of a throughline in the stories this season compared to what I remember of the priors.

My least favorite of the 3 seasons, but still very good. Really wonder how far they'll go with things, hard to see a nuclear attack or something ever actually happening. They just had a better story to tell and more meaningful beats in the prior season.

KAB

Oct 17, 2025

Not in a hurry to watch it this time.

klang

Oct 21, 2025

Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.

meStevo

Today at 8:24 PM

One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 8:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.

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jsmit86

Oct 7, 2026

Regarding the no sound bug when watching 4K HDR events or DVR recordings with Dolby set to ON:
I got rolled back to H708 last night after getting an email from the support team. It fixed the bug.

The email indicated that they believed they found the issue, and if the fix works, they would roll it out via an update in the coming weeks.

So... we should see that bug exterminated in the near future.

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long_time_Dish

Saturday at 6:31 PM

148-04 says the NASCAR race on at noon on Sunday. Be interesting to see if it is.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Foxbat

Today at 6:24 PM

Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

Bobby said:
CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

Bobby said:
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

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Bobby

Today at 7:31 PM

Foxbat said:
Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.

As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

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Bobby

Today at 8:01 PM

Bobby said:
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.

As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.

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