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Help me keep my sanity over 8-place diseqc feed and multiple dishes feeding single Amiko Mini receiver:
Setup at present:
port 1: C of C/Ku feed Birdview
port 2: Ku port of C/ku Birdview
port 3: Fixed Birdview on 103 C-band
port 4: Fixed Ku on 103
port 5: Fixed Ku on 125
Port 6: Spare: To be 97 ku, not used now
Port 7 Spare: To be fixed 99 C Band, (manual crank/6 footer) replaced Ku shown in picture.
Port 8: Spare: to be used for any Ku
I've followed the 101-C band thread on intermittent signal on retro and specialty networks. I have the same issue as everyone, But Me-TV locks fine. "normal" is how I'd describe it. (port 1)
Meanwhile, the FIXED 103 for Ion, PBS, etc with new feedline (which I thought was a problem) acts like T-I ( iClosest analogy I can give) is causing it to dip signal regularly, but unpredictably. (port 3)
Thought I'd swap-in the MicroHD in for the Amiko. Just the reverse happened. After proper port settings were input to the MicroHD, my 103 on the fixed dish port 3 for Ion became steady, and the 101 feed port 1/motorized dish couldn't even show a 45 percent "yes, you have LNB" noise signal! All other fixed dishes feeding BOTH receivers worked fine. I even rotated through all the transponders shown to see if ANY would make the signal meter respond. Nope. I'm hoping that rules out loss of a polarity voltage.
It seems like on the Amiko setup that the 103 and 101 are interfering with each other... and one receiver reads the issue differently than the other! The Amiko seems to impress the bouncing signal issue of 101 onto the fixed 103....meanwhile the MicroHD recognizes a strong 103 on the fixed dish with no problems at all, but 101 does not exist!
I've not changed any wires, I've verified my motorized dish port 1 C-band LNB is okay, rotating to 95, 99, 101, and 103.
Why in the world will two different receivers have completely opposite symptoms? One gets 101's Me-TV steadily with the usual signal dropouts & the same issues were all having on the others, and that same receiver has signal dips on 103's ION from my fixed dish, while the other receiver sees NO Me-TV (not even the LNB) but gets a steady and strong signal and lock on all the 103 Ion and other transponders?
In this hobby, about the time you think you understand enough to handle anything, you're knocked back down the ladder and asking your Satellitguys friends for advice! Is it possible I have T-I that is more noticeable on certain receivers than others and on different transponder frequencies? Hopefully it's something ELSE...
Hopefully I've put this logically enough to follow...
So, I'm asking....what in the WORLD is going on?
Setup at present:
port 1: C of C/Ku feed Birdview
port 2: Ku port of C/ku Birdview
port 3: Fixed Birdview on 103 C-band
port 4: Fixed Ku on 103
port 5: Fixed Ku on 125
Port 6: Spare: To be 97 ku, not used now
Port 7 Spare: To be fixed 99 C Band, (manual crank/6 footer) replaced Ku shown in picture.
Port 8: Spare: to be used for any Ku
I've followed the 101-C band thread on intermittent signal on retro and specialty networks. I have the same issue as everyone, But Me-TV locks fine. "normal" is how I'd describe it. (port 1)
Meanwhile, the FIXED 103 for Ion, PBS, etc with new feedline (which I thought was a problem) acts like T-I ( iClosest analogy I can give) is causing it to dip signal regularly, but unpredictably. (port 3)
Thought I'd swap-in the MicroHD in for the Amiko. Just the reverse happened. After proper port settings were input to the MicroHD, my 103 on the fixed dish port 3 for Ion became steady, and the 101 feed port 1/motorized dish couldn't even show a 45 percent "yes, you have LNB" noise signal! All other fixed dishes feeding BOTH receivers worked fine. I even rotated through all the transponders shown to see if ANY would make the signal meter respond. Nope. I'm hoping that rules out loss of a polarity voltage.
It seems like on the Amiko setup that the 103 and 101 are interfering with each other... and one receiver reads the issue differently than the other! The Amiko seems to impress the bouncing signal issue of 101 onto the fixed 103....meanwhile the MicroHD recognizes a strong 103 on the fixed dish with no problems at all, but 101 does not exist!
I've not changed any wires, I've verified my motorized dish port 1 C-band LNB is okay, rotating to 95, 99, 101, and 103.
Why in the world will two different receivers have completely opposite symptoms? One gets 101's Me-TV steadily with the usual signal dropouts & the same issues were all having on the others, and that same receiver has signal dips on 103's ION from my fixed dish, while the other receiver sees NO Me-TV (not even the LNB) but gets a steady and strong signal and lock on all the 103 Ion and other transponders?
In this hobby, about the time you think you understand enough to handle anything, you're knocked back down the ladder and asking your Satellitguys friends for advice! Is it possible I have T-I that is more noticeable on certain receivers than others and on different transponder frequencies? Hopefully it's something ELSE...
Hopefully I've put this logically enough to follow...
So, I'm asking....what in the WORLD is going on?
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I am certainly no expert being new to FTA, but I've seen enough to be suspicious that there are no industry standards in the architecture surrounding receiver design. Even Cisco with all their experience in the industry suffers the same ailments as the cheap Chinese receivers such as the $26 Freesat V7. I'd guess the Cisco D9865H commercial grade receiver incorporates two different and separate processing circuits, one for FTA and another for PowerVU capable of decoding commercial broadcast channels.
Unlike the early days of C-Band, there are no major players in the game like R.L Drake, General Instruments or Scientific Atlanta producing equipment for the FTA market. I would venture to say some of the issues with multi-dish hook ups would still be present if all the receivers in a system such as yours were all of the same manufacturer. I've seen weird anomalies running two receivers of the same manufacturer on a simple dual output LNBF hook-up on a single dish, which would indicate the lack of consistency between supposedly similar components, such as processors and tuning circuits.
I'm sure Titanium and some others in here are far more capable of hashing out your problem than I am. I guess it's why they call FTA a hobby. Even after being in the satellite business for 30 years, I end up scratching my head more often than I'd like when you have a half dozen different receivers, each with its own unique problem. I love playing with this kind of stuff, so I don't get frustrated to the point of pulling my hair out. Hang in there, I'm sure someone in here has the knowledge to find a work through for your problem. Good luck
Unlike the early days of C-Band, there are no major players in the game like R.L Drake, General Instruments or Scientific Atlanta producing equipment for the FTA market. I would venture to say some of the issues with multi-dish hook ups would still be present if all the receivers in a system such as yours were all of the same manufacturer. I've seen weird anomalies running two receivers of the same manufacturer on a simple dual output LNBF hook-up on a single dish, which would indicate the lack of consistency between supposedly similar components, such as processors and tuning circuits.
I'm sure Titanium and some others in here are far more capable of hashing out your problem than I am. I guess it's why they call FTA a hobby. Even after being in the satellite business for 30 years, I end up scratching my head more often than I'd like when you have a half dozen different receivers, each with its own unique problem. I love playing with this kind of stuff, so I don't get frustrated to the point of pulling my hair out. Hang in there, I'm sure someone in here has the knowledge to find a work through for your problem. Good luck
I am certainly no expert being new to FTA, but I've seen enough to be suspicious that there are no industry standards in the architecture surrounding receiver design. Even Cisco with all their experience in the industry suffers the same ailments as the cheap Chinese receivers such as the $26 Freesat V7. I'd guess the Cisco D9865H commercial grade receiver incorporates two different and separate processing circuits, one for FTA and another for PowerVU capable of decoding commercial broadcast channels.
Unlike the early days of C-Band, there are no major players in the game like R.L Drake, General Instruments or Scientific Atlanta producing equipment for the FTA market. I would venture to say some of the issues with multi-dish hook ups would still be present if all the receivers in a system such as yours were all of the same manufacturer. I've seen weird anomalies running two receivers of the same manufacturer on a simple dual output LNBF hook-up on a single dish, which would indicate the lack of consistency between supposedly similar components, such as processors and tuning circuits.
I'm sure Titanium and some others in here are far more capable of hashing out your problem than I am. I guess it's why they call FTA a hobby. Even after being in the satellite business for 30 years, I end up scratching my head more often than I'd like when you have a half dozen different receivers, each with its own unique problem. I love playing with this kind of stuff, so I don't get frustrated to the point of pulling my hair out. Hang in there, I'm sure someone in here has the knowledge to find a work through for your problem. Good luck
All very good points. I like to have as little motorized watching as possible...on my regular channels. The dual LNB idea from the 103 fixed dish is not a bad idea!
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big cityAnother Tulsa King spin off.
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.
Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!
Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!
Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
www.ign.com
'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video
Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
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That's what I will be watching this weekend."Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
'It Is Time Go!' — Project Hail Mary Is Officially Coming to Prime Video
Amazon has confirmed that Project Hail Mary will be coming to Prime Video.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.
Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place.
Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN
Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
