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HDRoberts

HDRoberts

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They are on Cband, As to what condition, I dont know, But I think they are encrypted. I do know that they require a 12 footer to get them reliably though as they are in s2.

What I mean to say is oviously someone had to authorize the recievers Dish uses to get those channels before sending them to us. It seems odd to say so much later that Dish simply is not authorized to distribute these channels.
 
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fbbonline

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NO

READ THE CONTRACT YOU SIGNED



Dish could remove every single channel from their line up and there is NOTHING you could do about it.

Don't like it? Don't sign the contracts and pay the equipment fees up front.

Not that I disagree with your overall point, but technically, there is nothing in the language you quoted from the service agreement that makes reference to the right to terminate without paying a cancellation fee. It only speaks to the right to obtain a refund.

I would guess it is probably addressed in another section of the service agerement, but if you're going to advise him to read the agreement in such emphatic fashion, you should probably point him to the correct provision.

And if they did remove all the channels as you suggest in your post, there would be several legal remedies available to subscribers.
 
BK94541

BK94541

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Is funny dish add more HD channels then few months after we loose some of the HD channels ..is like giving and takes back game ,
B.S provider!
 
Scott Greczkowski

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The following has been posted to the DISH Network Retailers website.

Disney and ESPN Networks
Effective June 22, 2010 the standard-definition feeds of Disney Channel, Disney XD, ABC Family and ESPNews are still available, and you may continue to watch your favorite programs on their regular channel numbers.

DISH Network offers all customers HD Free for Life, which is possible because we are committed to negotiating fair contracts that allow us to keep our prices low. That is why we could not agree to the significant fees required by Disney and ESPN Networks for the HD feeds of Disney East, Disney XD, ESPNews and ABC Family. After we refused to pay, Disney and ESPN Networks pulled the HD feeds of these four channels only.

DISH Network is pursuing every avenue possible to restore the HD feeds of these channels. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank you for being a valued DISH Network Retailer.
 
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geonaz

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Keep them all off the dish. They are nothing but infomercials with an occasional break for programming. Who needs them? As someone mentioned before get the kids doing something active. If a child is young enough to be watching Handy Manny they don't care if it is in HD or SD. As to the ESPN channels, don't you get sick of all the hype and screaming. Come on, there is rarely any sports on there. Even when they are telecasting a game there is too much extraneous BS coming from the so so called experts you have to turn off the sound to enjoy it.:p Take the time to check out some of the channels you don't presently watch, You may find something that you like.
 
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Can someone help me understand this suit? It sounds to me like Disney is saying Dish never had a right to carry them in HD. But (correct me if I'm wrong) those channels are not distributed on C-band FTA. Obviously at some point they gave Dish access to them, and if there was no agreement, how had Dish carried them for over a year.

Yes this is the puzzler. I suspect the basic E*-Disney programming contract in effect, failed to differentiate between SD and HD content and thus E* felt free to use both SD and HD content instead of negotiating a separate contract. Now Disney has stuck out its horns in order to grab more bucks from distributors in getting courts to decide that SD and HD programming are different products. I've been looking for the case but haven't located it yet, so I'm just speculating. E* probably isn't feeling a lot of love for Disney/ESPN anyway as ESPN screwed them over and violated the most favored clause of the contract.
 
kstuart

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Yes you keep on pointing out these small cable companies that barly cover one quarter of the country...

Small ? ?

Time Warner Cable is the same size as Dish Network, and is the #2 cable company in the US.

Comcast wich is the number 1 provider hasnt had a dispute like this.

Comcrap ??

Are you kidding me ?

There have been many reported incidents with individual customers describing less than satisfying interactions with Comcast's customer services. These include situations with a technician falling asleep on the job,[72] customers having to spend hours on the phone to fix simple problems, and sending a bill addressed to "Bitch Dog" to a customer who had recently complained about her service.[73] On October 15, 2007, a 75-year old Comcast customer named Mona Shaw entered her local Comcast offices with a hammer and destroyed some office equipment before being arrested and fined for damages. Mrs. Shaw was angry and frustrated due to a previous encounter with Comcast customer service in which she and her husband wanted to speak with the manager and were forced to wait outside the offices for two hours before being informed that the manager had already gone home.[74][75] Comcast's customer service quality has prompted several individuals to create blogs and websites dedicated to informing the public of Comcast's service, including one run by media columnist Bob Garfield.[76]
In 2004 and 2007, the American Customer Satisfaction Index survey found that Comcast had the worst customer satisfaction rating of any company or government agency in the country, including the Internal Revenue Service. However, the ACSI indicates that almost half of all cable customers (regardless of company) have registered complaints, and that cable is the only industry to score below 60 in the ACSI.[77] Comcast's Customer Service Rating by the ACSI surveys indicate that the company's customer service has not improved since the surveys began in 2001. Analysis of the surveys states that "Comcast is one of the lowest scoring companies in ACSI. As its customer satisfaction eroded by 7% over the past year, revenue increased by 12%." The ACSI analysis also addresses this contradiction, stating that "Such pricing power usually comes with some level of monopoly protection and most cable companies have little competition at the local level. This also means that a cable company can do well financially even though its customers are not particularly satisfied."[78][79]
 
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robstudio

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So no ESPNewsHD now as well. I've lost 2 local HD's as well this past week (Springfield, MA). The a la carte idea is great... I would pay extra for channels rather than having them pulled. The bickering about what channels are important and of most value would end, we could pick what's wanted. That won't happen though due to the providers contractually insisting that they're in a package. Irregardless of whom is at fault, this will be resolved quickly or I will leave DN. My programming package is going from top250 to the lowest available package until this is resolved. I've said my piece here, now I'm off to say it with my pocket book. :(
 
Dishpointer

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I figured Vurbano would chime in with his sarcasm. The only one missing from this conversation is Haller. The only channel I care about is Disney HD since my daughters channels are limited on Absolute and the SD versions aren't available.
 
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daleeper

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Disney east and abc family hd and sd have been removed from the Dish America package. Our family will be missing both. Wish the welcome package was still available, we would shift to it for the time being.
 

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