622: You CAN activate before install- sort of...

ScooterS

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Yes, I got my 622 activated by Dish before the Install, but here is the problem....

I ordered my 622 with the standard install.

It arrived a few days before my scheduled install date.

Being a normal "guy" type, I didn't want to wait until the install date to give it a try. I already have a 921, so I had 2 feeds from my legacy SW64 running to the receiver location.

I hooked up the 622 and powered it up. I went through all of the standard switch stuff and the box downloaded the software. Voila.. I had a working, but not activated, receiver.

Not being one to let a little CSR roulette slow me down, I called Dish to see who I would have to talk into digging deep into the bowels of their computer to give me the precious permission to activate the 622.

A sweet voice answered, I gave her the obligatory information. I told her that I would like to activate the receiver and wanted to make sure that I didn't screw-up my upcoming install date.

"One moment please," she said as I heard her keyboard clicking in the background. Within a minute or two she said that she had activated the receiver. She also confirmed my install date and made a note that I want to keep my 61.5 dish and need an DPP 44 to make it all work.

Way cool, I thought, finally someone who knows what she is doing!

But wait, this IS DISH. I waited for a couple of minutes, but it seemed like an hour until the red lights disappeared on my guide.

Way cool, I thought, But wait this IS DISH. I programmed my locals, all digital and most pumping out HD shows. I brought them up on the screen. Geee, it thought, they sure don't look as crisp as they did on the 921. I then checked my settings and decided to see how the picture compared to my Voom channels.... Voom Channels, where are the Voom channels? For that matter where are all of my HD channels? There they are.... All still locked out and in "red" on the program guide.

I then waited about 15 or 20 nanoseconds and made a call back to Dish. The new CSR wasn't sure, but kicked me up to a HD Specialist.

Hummm she said. The other CSR shouldn't have activated your receiver. After a bit of prompting she explained why...

"When she activated the receiver she opened your installation ticket. Due to a glitch in our system, that immediately cancelled your old HD package. The new HD package won't be activated until your dish is installed and the technician closes the ticket. I'm sorry, there is nothing I can do except have you to wait for your installation."

In other words, by activating my 622 they deleted my HD package. My new Platinum package won't be activated until the ticket is closed. I assume that I could have had her close the ticket, but I would be risking the loss of the Dish 1000, switches and a delightful afternoon with a Dish Service Technician.

The moral of the story is "A Dish 1000 in the hand is worth more than a 622 out of the box."

Overall, my install is tomorrow & I've only lost a couple of days of HD . It really isn't that big of a deal. Things should go as silk, since the receiver already works. But wait a minute, this IS DISH...

(to be continued)
 
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Well I got my 622 today as well and my installation is scheduled for Tues (Mar 14) and I was wanting to do that same thing. But the difference for me is that I don't have HD now so if my new 622 was activated and running on both TV's and it had everything except HD I would be ahead of the game. Then I would just have to wait for the technician to come on Tues and install either another Dish 500 or a Dish 1000. I am thinking I want to keep my 110/119 Dish 500 and just have him put up another Dish 500 for 129. People seem to be saying that a Dish 1000 is not as good as having 2 Dish 500's. I used to have 2 Dish 500's but somebody stole the other one and the switch that went along with it. I already have 2 coax cables running to my old Dish 511 so I think I can go ahead and install the 622 and call up and get it activated and still keep my installation date. I'll let everyone know what happens.
 
Oh Yeah... I've learned some interesting things.

The only channel that I get in HD is the HD Demo Channel off of 61.5. It still looks really good. Sooo.. The entire receiver isn't locked out of HD.

However, my Off The Air locals, which I know that I am receiving in HD, are being shown in SD.

The channel number show up as HD, but there is no sign of an enhanced image.

Somehow I suspect that the dish way of "locking out" HD is to put a lock on the video outputs that prohibit the output of anything higher than SD resolution.

In other words, you can't by the receiver for the Over The Air HD and DVR capabilities, unless you buy their HD package to go with it. Without a HD package all you will get is SD by Dish and by Air.

More as I figure all of this out.......
 
Well I just got a CSR that would not activate my receiver without canceling my installation date. He also told me that if I activate it myself it will void the 90 day warranty and if the receiver dies they will not replace it.

He said I could activate it now and cancel my March 14th install date or keep the March 14th install date. He said if I wanted to activate it now I would have to get a new install date of April 2nd.

He also told me I was getting a Dish 1000 so my thoughts are I wonder if I tell them to install the Dish 1000 and keep the Dish 500 to point at the 129 satellite since everyone keeps saying the Dish 1000 doesn't do good with 129 satellite.
 
Well I called back a second time and got a different person. They got me all the way through and never said anything but at the very end she said it wasn't letting her activate it because I have to wait for a technician. Totally different then the first guy though. Very nice as well. So I guess I'm just going to have to wait until Tues. to get my 622 working. Oh well. It was worth a shot.
 
Are you going to HD Tech Help? I got my 622 activated the day it arrived and I was able to keep my original install date, which was 8 days later. You just have to talk to the right CSR.

Larry
SF
 
Scooters said:
Oh Yeah... I've learned some interesting things.

The only channel that I get in HD is the HD Demo Channel off of 61.5. It still looks really good. Sooo.. The entire receiver isn't locked out of HD.


When I had my old 6000 receiver deactivated, some channels stayed active and viewable. The only HD channel was the Demo channel. Seems like it is seperate from the HD package.
 
Update on the "Local Channels"...

I am definately getting all my locals off the Dish right now. (Rather than getting them OTA and having the 622 down-rez them because my HD plan isn't active).
I have plenty of off-air signal, the channels are mapped correctly and they show up in the guide. However, the 622 will only display the nasty, ugly, compressed SD Dish signal.

I confirmed this by disconnecting my outside antenna. I lost all OTA signal, the signal didn't change and I still had the dish.
 
Scooters - make certain you have the 622 set to output either 720p or 1080i HD. This is configurable and you might still have it set to 480i. Use whatever your HDTV will support.
 
larrykenney said:
Are you going to HD Tech Help? I got my 622 activated the day it arrived and I was able to keep my original install date, which was 8 days later. You just have to talk to the right CSR.

Larry
SF

I was talking to HD Tech both times. Because I know the first time I got just a normal activation person and she then said "Oh this is HDTV - you need to talk to HD TECH" and she transferred me. Then the second time I went straight to HD Tech.

So no go for me. I don't know what else to do except call again but to be honest with you it's not even that important to me to have just the regualr channels because my 510 gets those already. It was fun messing with the new 622 though. Looks like it's going to be nice.
 

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