AMC 4 portuguese

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nigel_miguel

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i'm using a coolsat 5000 trying to get RTPI, i need the info to get this signal (tried lyngsat, very confusing).

Can anyone walk me through it?


i also need to know what is the azimuth, elevation and polarization for this sat??

i'm in London, ONtario Canada.

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Latitude 43° 0.000'N Longitude 81° 0.000'W
Here are all the angles to the satellites..........


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                      Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
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                       Amos 1/2    4.0W  98.9 108.6  0.8 -46.3
                               
                Atlantic Bird 3    5.0W  99.7 109.3  1.5 -46.1
                               
                Nilesat 101/102    7.0W 101.1 110.8  2.9 -45.9
                               
     Telecom 2D/Atlantic Bird 2    8.0W 101.8 111.5  3.7 -45.7
                               
                     Express A3   11.0W 103.9 113.6  5.8 -45.2
                               
                     Telstar 12   15.0W 106.9 116.6  8.7 -44.4
                               
                   Intelsat 901   18.0W 109.2 118.8 10.8 -43.7
                               
                          NSS 7   22.0W 112.3 122.0 13.7 -42.6
                               
                   Intelsat 905   24.5W 114.3 124.0 15.4 -41.8
                               
                   Intelsat 907   27.5W 116.8 126.5 17.5 -40.8
                               
                  Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 118.9 128.6 19.2 -39.8
                               
                   Intelsat 801   31.5W 120.2 129.9 20.2 -39.2
                               
                   Intelsat 903   34.5W 122.9 132.6 22.2 -37.9
                               
                    AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 125.7 135.4 24.1 -36.4
                               
                        NSS 806   40.5W 128.6 138.3 26.0 -34.9
                               
                      Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 131.1 140.8 27.5 -33.4
                               
                         Pas 1R   45.0W 133.2 142.9 28.6 -32.2
                               
                   Intelsat 705   50.0W 138.6 148.3 31.4 -28.9
                               
                   Intelsat 707   53.0W 142.1 151.7 32.9 -26.7
                               
                   Intelsat 805   55.5W 145.0 154.7 34.1 -24.8
                               
                          Pas 9   58.0W 148.1 157.8 35.2 -22.7
                               
                       Amazonas   61.0W 151.9 161.6 36.4 -20.1
                               
                     EchoStar 3   61.5W 152.6 162.2 36.6 -19.7
                               
                      Rainbow 1   61.5W 152.6 162.2 36.6 -19.7
                               
               Estrela do Sul 1   63.0W 154.5 164.2 37.1 -18.3
                               
                   Brasilsat B2   65.0W 157.2 166.9 37.8 -16.5
                               
                   Brasilsat B1   70.0W 164.1 173.8 39.1 -11.6
                               
                       Nahuel 1   71.8W 166.6 176.3 39.5  -9.7
                               
                      DirecTV 1   72.5W 167.6 177.3 39.6  -9.0
                               
                          AMC 6   72.0W 166.9 176.6 39.6  -9.5
                               
                          SBS 6   74.0W 169.8 179.5 39.9  -7.4
                               
                     Echostar 4   77.0W 174.1 183.8 40.2  -4.3
                               
                          AMC 5   79.0W 177.1 186.8 40.3  -2.1
                               
                      Nimiq 2/3   82.0W 181.5 191.2 40.4   1.1
                               
                          AMC-9   83.0W 182.9 192.6 40.3   2.1
                               
                   Brasilsat B3   84.0W 184.4 194.1 40.3   3.2
                               
                          AMC 2   85.0W 185.9 195.5 40.2   4.3
                               
                          AMC 3   87.0W 188.8 198.4 40.0   6.4
                               
                           IA-8   89.0W 191.6 201.3 39.7   8.5
                               
                      Galaxy 11   91.0W 194.5 204.2 39.4  10.5
                               
                     Nimiq 1/4i   91.0W 194.5 204.2 39.4  10.5
                               
                   Brasilsat B4   92.0W 195.9 205.6 39.1  11.6
                               
                      Telstar 6   93.0W 197.3 207.0 38.9  12.6
                               
                      Galaxy 3C   95.0W 200.1 209.8 38.4  14.5
                               
                      Telstar 5   97.0W 202.8 212.5 37.8  16.5
                               
                      Galaxy 4R   99.0W 205.5 215.2 37.1  18.3
                               
                     Spaceway 2   99.2W 205.7 215.4 37.1  18.5
                               
                DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 208.1 217.8 36.4  20.1
                               
                          AMC 4  101.0W 208.1 217.8 36.4  20.1
                               
                     Spaceway 1  103.0W 210.6 220.3 35.6  21.9
                               
                          AMC 1  103.0W 210.6 220.3 35.6  21.9
                               
                         AMC 15  105.0W 213.1 222.8 34.8  23.6
                               
                      Anik F1/R  107.3W 215.9 225.6 33.7  25.4
                               
                      DirecTV 5  109.5W 218.5 228.2 32.7  27.1
                               
                EchoStar 6/8/10  110.0W 219.1 228.8 32.4  27.5
                               
                        Anik F2  111.1W 220.4 230.0 31.9  28.3
                               
                  Solidaridad 2  113.0W 222.5 232.2 30.9  29.6
                               
                       SatMex 5  116.8W 226.6 236.3 28.8  32.1
                               
                         AMC-16  119.0W 228.9 238.6 27.5  33.4
                               
                     DirecTV 7s  119.0W 228.9 238.6 27.5  33.4
                               
                     EchoStar 7  119.0W 228.9 238.6 27.5  33.4
                               
          EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 230.9 240.6 26.3  34.6
                               
                     Galaxy 10R  123.0W 232.9 242.5 25.0  35.7
                               
                      Galaxy 14  125.0W 234.8 244.5 23.8  36.7
                               
                  Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 236.6 246.3 22.5  37.6
                               
 Intelsat Americas 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 238.4 248.1 21.2  38.6
                               
                         AMC 11  131.0W 240.2 249.9 19.9  39.4
                               
                   Galaxy 1R/15  133.0W 241.9 251.6 18.5  40.2
                               
                         AMC 10  135.0W 243.6 253.3 17.1  40.9
                               
                          AMC 7  137.0W 245.3 255.0 15.8  41.6
                               
                          AMC 8  139.0W 246.9 256.6 14.4  42.3
                               
                   EchoStar 1/2  148.0W 253.9 263.5  8.0  44.6

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This should help with lyngsat......

http://www.dmsiusa.com/charts.htm

http://www.lyngsat.com/amc4.html

DFreq. 12169

Polarity. H

Symbol rate. 3003
 
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Mr Tony

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considering all he wanted was the info for AMC4

AMC 4 101.0W 208.1 217.8 36.4 20.1

36 elevation
217 azimuth (E-W)
skew is +20 (you need to skew the LNB counterclockwise). Stand in front of the dish facing it and turn the LNB counterclockwise a little bit

As for the frequency
12169 freq
H polarity
3003 symbol rate
 
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nigel_miguel

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are you sure it's 36 elevation. I just went to look at friend's, and it's at 40???

as anyone set one up??
 
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What kind of dish does he have?

Some dish are way off on their elevation markings 4º is not that much really. Always use the signal quality meter to get the exact elevation.

May the force be with you!
 
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nigel_miguel

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it's the same dish, 33 inch, with a universal KU LNB, i just don't know why i can't get it, i've done it before.

so that you guys know there is a house (2 storey), about 100 feet away. will it make a difference??

i'm also having a problem with azimuth, i'm using a compass, but i'm not having much look.

What should i do first?? elevation, or azimuth?

eventhough i've done this before, can you tell i'm getting frustrated? it's taking me two days to do this?????
 
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Make sure to set the mast/pole level all round. Set the elevation and then the Azimuth. Once you have scanned the area in the sky the compass directed you to, add 2º to the elevation and rescan the sky. Continue doing that 2-3 times. Then subtract 2º from the original elevation and contine subtracting 2º from the elevation each sweep of the sky.

Most LNB's can see a spread of around 2-3º

Keep away from all metallic objects when using a compass, it will get you in the ballpark but your signal quality meter and a LIVE TP. will be needed to find the satellite.

At an elevation of 35º to clear a 100' building you would have to be 143' away from the building!

If you think you are close use blind scan!
 
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If it is a universal LNB, make sure its set for the right LNB LO frequency
Universal
9750/10600

or set it to Single, LO 10600 and turn 22k on
 
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"Keep away from all metallic objects when using a compass, it will get you in the ballpark but your signal quality meter and a LIVE TP. will be needed to find the satellite."

What's live TP???

and you mentioned blind Scan.... if i have no signal, How can i scan? I get nothing?

Signal quality is at 97%, but Level % is at 7% to 8%, no more.....
 
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Do not try find to 12169 H (RTPI) first it's real pain to find that way.
Instead go for 11822 H (3ABN) it's always at 99% quality once find this transponder can you start to skew lnbf to bring 12169 H (RTPI) in.


RtpiFan :)
 
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a live transpnoder is one that is on all the time. As we've noted, there are a few you can aim for. I would try RTPIFan's idea. Try and pick up 3Angels Network. Their signal is very strong and then you can get RTPi from there
 
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nigel_miguel

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so do i use the same az, and elev?
 
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just to make sure.... i go to 11822 (H), and do not skew the LNBF, leaving it at zero., once i get a signal i then go to 12169 (h) and skew, correct?

I apologize for so many questions....
 
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Iceberg said:
you need to skew the LNB regardless


so... why am i looking for 11822, as opposed to 12169???
 
RtpiFan

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12169 H is really hard tune if want to find amc4.
You should use 11822 H to find amc4 and when get you decent quality on 11822 H (3ABN) you can change to 12169 H and start skewing the lnbf until you get quality on 12169 H (RTPI).

RtpiFan :)
 
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