Like one of those E* CSR's over in India?One works in the bank and deals with cash, we don't, we troubleshoot people's account when they have any questions over the phone.
Now everyone thinks I am a teller LOLZ.
See what you have done vurbano?
Another nail in BluRay's coffin?
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You left out his drooling over Miley Cyrus and her new movie.Oh yes. I've been trolling these forums for a while...enough to know that Ice is a 19 year old bank teller who likes to readed things (sorry, Ice)
Where? Not in my neighborhood. The cheapest is 750 for $24.99 a month. 1.5 is $29.99 and 3.0 (fastest DSL in my area of residence) $34.99 a month. Fastest I can get at the house is 1.5. You must live in a very populated area.
I am unaware of my bank having any call centers in India.
All the Call centers are located in US.
Good luck on convincing the rest of the world that.
I bet this argument would have been very different if HD-DVD won no? Now now, don't like, you can tell the truth..
I think we already went through the whole concept of downloads, and it is a fail for now.
Studios make a much bigger profit by just selling them the damn disk, I doubt people will rent over and over again a movie to just view it, the profit its much lower if they rent it once and never rent it anymore.
Look at it this from the company's perspective:
- Buy the copyrights of the movies from the studio so they can start reselling.
- Pay for bandwidth
- Pay for server maintenance
- Pay for Internet/upload
- Pay for employees
Those are the basics, I am sure there are a lot more fees.
And I don't think those companies will offer much money to studios for that, they are better off staying with BD.
Now from the customers perspective:
- Higher Internet Bill
- Upgrade their system and buy a Hard Drive ( there are a lot of customers out there that don't like to download contents from the internet)
- Upgrade their modem since you are all talking about the new 3.0 technology
- Upgrade HDD every dozens of movies (HD 1080p) that can be pricey.
Those are just few of the things, I am sure there will be more to it.
The average Joe won't go through all this trouble to view a simple movie.
Along that, some people always have trouble with Internet, face it, there will always be more problems with internet than buying a simple player and buying a disc and insert/play.
Most people rather own a copy of the movie on a disk rather than store it on a hard drive. I for one I'd rather have a movie disc than a Hard Drive.
Man you must really hate BD! How could you be so much in bed with Toshiba? I read and reread the article and I kept missing your point. I guess I am one of those people who know how to let go when it is necessary to do so. Seek help man! Peace and love to you.
They need a place to vent.
I suppose thats what the warzone is good for once one of the two formats lost the war.
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Its not hate just to point out flaws, get your facts straight. His post ran down a crap list of reasons why companies would not invest in downloading. Companies are already doing downloads and growing. There are a few doing HD downloading NOW. "Seek help" in reading his post before you post newbie.
Crap list? All I hear from you is :river.
Your point has no ground, this isn't something that will happen in the near future, stop talking and enjoy what you have in the present.
I wonder what people like you do, wait for couple years to get a BD player once they realized ***** "I was wrong for the last 5 years", DL content ain't going anywhere for a long long time. So much wasted time.
Now, on a serious note:
Let me ask you a question, who is running the market?
The stores, Best Buy, WalMart, CC, and few other places, and stores will not let this happen.
How many people look on the internet for ads? Not many, people get ads in their mail from BB/WM/CC and other places, not the internet. How do you think companies will advertise their DL service/content? I am damn sure it won't be through any major retail stores.
How many people do you know that download HD (movies) content from the internet and watch it? Probably not many, at this age, most people buy their movies @ the stores.
This is conversation is not going anywhere.
The fact is BD is here to stay, and it ain't going anywhere, and your download HD content, well we can speak about it in about 5+ years because nothing huge is going to happen anytime soon.
Its fine by me if you keep denying BD, you can go back and keep watching your up converted movies on your DVD/HD-DVD player.
While the rest of us will enjoy our BD movies.
Your friends joined the Blu boat, look at vurbano, all the crap he talks, he still got a BD player, also Elstevo got himself a BD player.
I am sure many will join the Blu boat sooner or later after they realize there is no other alternative for now other than the titles that are already on HD-DVD and up converted DVD's.
Is it?
OK. If a person that "readed" and most definitely "thinked" about it say so, it must be true...
Diogen.
Is it?
OK. If a person that "readed" and most definitely "thinked" about it say so, it must be true...
Diogen.
In the end, which format is alive? HD-DVD or Blu-ray?
Chin up Ice. Keep working hard and I'm sure maybe someday they will trust you enough to let you actually touch the money.
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That list you typed up in a Word document then cut in pasted here was crap. Most of it already debunked many times here in the forums. Downloading is here, HD downloading is already started. A lot in the industry will tell you this is the last physical format and as the tech specialist on CNN said it’ll only last a few years.
What we have now is very expensive BD players that J6S can’t afford. I never said I wouldn’t get a player but only when a full featured 2.0 player that was able to do everything my HD-A3 could do in the same price range. We all know how long that’ll be. Its hard to ‘enjoy’ what we have now when we can’t afford it.
Just because you stick your head in the sand doesn’t mean the BD flaws will go away. These are the same concerns most people had during the war so its not sour grapes. Unless these major obstacles are over come BD is destined to be a niche format. Its just to much competition on the horizon.
its about downloads taking over BD.
quote=vurbano;1315126]Isnt the discussion about downloads?[/quote]
quote=vurbano;1315126]Isnt the discussion about downloads?
[/quote]I dont see flaws is BD. Stop the price C$%p...when DVD players first cam out I paid $350 for a single disk Toshiba player.
That was then, this is now. DVD had nothing on the horizen ready to pounce on it. BD, OTOH, has new technology ready to gobble it up.
BD has a very small window of opportunity. If they keep prices high, it will relegate itself to a niche market.
All it takes is a single lucrative deal with a movie studio to hit a nice price point per movie, or something that allows for buffet viewing of a catalog, with allowances for re-viewing to not overcharge a viewer for something they've already seen and online downloads would become more popular than BD this year.
Yeah, I said it. World peace could also happen too.
In my opinion, bandwidth isn't the problem, it's the value that studios are trying to retain in their movies. They don't want you to buy Blu-Ray movies in a bin for $5 at a value retailer, they want you to pay $30. All it would take is a service to wreck this mentality. For the music industry, there was a time when owning the disc and materials were a very big deal, I've been alive just long enough to remember that kind of stuff (at age 29). Then Napster happened. It wasn't legal, but it forever changed the music industry and they are still trying to catch up to the innovation. Despite being illegal, it made things like iTunes possible... people no longer needed to have the physical copy of the CD anymore, it wasn't worth the $15-$20 or whatever the studios were trying to charge.
It will take this kind of transformation to bring downloads to the next level. Do so and people will be happy to buy a portable version, a HD version, or a package of all 3 at a discounted price due to the digital delivery.... but $15+ is not that price.
Anyways, im in the middle of a 20hr trip home from my honeymoon, ending my tired babble here for now.
Lets keep this a discussion, what would need to happen for downloads to take hold, and what would the climate need to be for them to coexist?
Can we agree BD will never reach DVDs success? With the number of other alternative media sources out there now, the market for optical discs is just not what it is. THIS is the cause of the decline of DVD sales, not format future format confusion.
Yeah, I said it. World peace could also happen too.
In my opinion, bandwidth isn't the problem, it's the value that studios are trying to retain in their movies. They don't want you to buy Blu-Ray movies in a bin for $5 at a value retailer, they want you to pay $30. All it would take is a service to wreck this mentality. For the music industry, there was a time when owning the disc and materials were a very big deal, I've been alive just long enough to remember that kind of stuff (at age 29). Then Napster happened. It wasn't legal, but it forever changed the music industry and they are still trying to catch up to the innovation. Despite being illegal, it made things like iTunes possible... people no longer needed to have the physical copy of the CD anymore, it wasn't worth the $15-$20 or whatever the studios were trying to charge.
It will take this kind of transformation to bring downloads to the next level. Do so and people will be happy to buy a portable version, a HD version, or a package of all 3 at a discounted price due to the digital delivery.... but $15+ is not that price.
Anyways, im in the middle of a 20hr trip home from my honeymoon, ending my tired babble here for now.
Lets keep this a discussion, what would need to happen for downloads to take hold, and what would the climate need to be for them to coexist?
Can we agree BD will never reach DVDs success? With the number of other alternative media sources out there now, the market for optical discs is just not what it is. THIS is the cause of the decline of DVD sales, not format future format confusion.
Pretty good Elstevo for tired babble.
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