Can find fta sats

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Can&#039;t find fta sats</b><br /> <br /> First like to say hello to everyone as this is my first post here, I been trying to get some FTA channels ( for a couple weeks now) or signal and cant seem to find anything. <br /> <br /> i have a viewsat ultra, 1.2 meter non skew able dish, sf-95c+ sat finder, standard single lnbf digiwave DGS-03s, and star choice 60E dual lnb.<br /> <br /> sat from 94 degrees on are block by big hill so can see but 94 down in clear sky<br /> i live in St. Johns Newfoundland Canada at 47 degrees north and 53 degrees west<br /> <br /> some i were trying were AMC 3,4,5, IA5, IA6, and was trying anik f1, but no luck some of the settings i was using <br /> <br /> AMC 3 12040 elevation 14.6 azimuth 242.3 skew 27.1<br /> AMC 4 11704 elevation 18.4 azimuth 236.7 skew 34.3<br /> AMC 5 11742 elevation 29.6 azimuth 213.8 skew 21.8<br /> IA5 12177 elevation 20.7 azimuth 232.9 skew 32.5<br /> IA6 11877 elevation 22.9 azimuth 228.9 skew 30.5<br /> <br /> on the ultra set <br /> lnb power =&gt; on<br /> LNB type =&gt; standard ( had universal for star choice 60E lnb)<br /> lnb freq =&gt; 10750<br /> tp =&gt; shown above for each one i tried<br /> 22 khz =&gt; off<br /> diseqc 1.0 =&gt; off<br /> motor =&gt; off<br /> legacy SW=&gt; off <br /> <br /> looked at (read) different guides that said dish was big enough but can find anything, are my settings ok? and how do you skew the star choice 60E ie if i move it to the next bolt pattern how much of a skew is that? (it has 4 small bolts at 90 degrees apart) and the notches on top of the digiwave lnb are they 5 or 10 degrees each? <br /> was looking for English feeds any help/ suggestions would be great also first time trying to get a fta linear sat. Thanks in advance for <u>any</u> help.</div>

 

[Anole]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>couple of things:</b><br /> <br /> Let&#039;s see . . . <br /> <br /> To know if you can see over that hill, you might use a compass and this home-made inclinometer:<br /> <br /> ThisBUDsForYou and his soda straw inclinometer<br /> <a href="http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/122722-0-soda-straw-inclinometer-line-sight-pictures.html" target="_blank" class="link link--internal" rel="noopener">http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-ai...a-straw-inclinometer-line-sight-pictures.html</a><br /> <br /> <br /> Then, tune your receiver to a strong transponder on the satellite you are trying to locate:<br /> <a href="http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/85225-i-need-strong-transponder-aim-my-dish.html" target="_blank" class="link link--internal" rel="noopener">http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/85225-i-need-strong-transponder-aim-my-dish.html</a><br /> <br /> <br /> To get a PDF printout of the satellites, elevations, direction, and skew, you might try this site:<br /> <a href="http://www.geosatfinder.com/" target="_blank" class="link link--external link--favicon link--favicon--before" style="background-image:url('https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=www.geosatfinder.com');" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">GeoSatFinder - Satellite Finder Calculator - Satellite AV</a><br /> It&#039;s just one of many good ones, but it&#039;s a place to start.<br /> <br /> <br /> ALSO, we have TheList, which also has strong transponders and aiming info.<br /> <br /> <br /> Okay, anyone.....what did I forget??</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks for your reply i like the straw gauge I will be trying that, the list of strong transponders from Iceberg i have also, Thanks, and that sat calculator gave me all info i need on all sats i can get, Thanks, and the dish size list have that, Thanks.<br /> <br /> The only thing i need now is the markings on the lnbf do anyone know what each mark represents on a digawave DGS-03S for skewing not sure how much each one is, and the star choice 60E lnb settings to use IE: (standard/universal) (10750 or 10600) and any skewing tips for it.<br /> <br /> Thanks again Anole</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Tried the straw thing and like i said no line of sight after 94 as i thought and i think i have the skew figured out if i turn it 90 degrees then it is skewed 90 degrees (i think) thats what i&#039;am going with now anyways gets lots of signal (91-92) but no quality still. Anyone know what a 60E star choice is standard or universal?</div>

 

[SpiffWilkie]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks for the inclinometer. I can use that and strap a green laser to the top.</div>

 

[Tron]

<div class="bbWrapper">Bevshadow, what is the model number of your LNB on the 60E? I believe some Star Choice LNBs are stacked.</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">The info on the star choice lnb 60E<br /> <br /> Part NO. 150462<br /> us patent #5,737,698, #5,898,455<br /> made in U.S.A<br /> California amplifier<br /> 143<br /> <br /> thats whats on back of the cans so to speak<br /> and on the small arms going to end of eye i have<br /> 60E on one and 3041211 on the other<br /> <br /> Thanks</div>

 

[amc1]

<div class="bbWrapper">welcome bevshadow nice to see another fellow newfie,im from corner brook ,glad im not alone ,dont mean to take over the tread just happy to see a fellow nflder. pm me some time we can compare notes ,lol.i forgot to add i did never had much luck with s.c. lmbf.</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks AMC1<br /> Will do, not much here either with star choice, been reading your posts about getting a bigger dish a while back and been thinking i&#039;ll have to do the same, I was going to pm you the other day but never, good to here from another Newfie also don&#039;t worry about the thread unless it bothers someone else not I, i pm next time i&#039;am on have to go wife wants to use phone.<br /> Later</div>

 

[amc1]

<div class="bbWrapper">ok bro later.</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Pm sent amc1<br /> <br /> Found out the marks ontop of the digiwave DGS-03s are 5 degrees apart -45 to +45<br /> now i need to figure out what settings for the star choice lnb. (only one cable output per can) if that helps been reading just can&#039;t find the info on this lnb if universal or standard.</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Also how important is it to use rg6 over 59 for FTA sats for the cables the ones I&#039;m using 59 and are only about 5 and 10 feet long?</div>

 

[Tron]

<div class="bbWrapper">Those are stacked LNBs, so they send down both horizontal and vertical polarity at the same time (no voltage switching of polarities). You can use a L.O. of 10750 and blind scan (if your receiver supports this) to find your horizontal transponders, which will be above your verticals in frequency.<br /> <br /> Or calculate 24600 minus the horizontal transponder frequency.<br /> <br /> RG-6 is definitely recommended for any permanent/long runs of cable from your LNBs, especially with stacked LNBs, since the frequencies will run up to around 2 ghz. I would not be surprised if RG-59 did not work at all for those LNBs, or if it did, you might lose the horizontal transponders since they are at higher frequencies.</div>

 

[amc1]

<div class="bbWrapper">RG-59 did not work at all that well for me i swapted out for rg6,i had better results .</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks for the input Amc1 and Tron wasted alot of time on that then weeks have to make up a couple rg6 cables and try all over. Good to know, been using it with circular lnbs and didn&#039;t find any difference at all same signal levels (short runs also), and thanks Tron for the lnb info been looking a while on net for something on that same exact model found others but not the one i have.<br /> Well time to give it a go again anyone know where i can find patience forsale lol<br /> Later</div>

 

[bevshadow]

<div class="bbWrapper">Well made up the cables and nothing yet except for shorter long piece LOL let ya know if i find anything<br /> thanks again for the help</div>

 

[Luv2Travel34]

<div class="bbWrapper">Unlike trying to catch a signal from a circular polarity satellite, you either have to skew your dish or rotate your lnb (the 5 o&#039;clock or the 11 o&#039;clock position would work best for the east coast of canada for AMC4 and Telsat 5/Galaxy 25) to catch the correct polarity of the linear polarity (fta) satellites otherwise you will be scanning the sky forever looking for a signal. Apply the same for AMC 4, however you may need to manually input the tp information especially if you have a viewsat ultra because all there is for AMC4 is C Band tp info, nothing for AMC4 KU band unless someone has a sat file they would like to share. The FTAlist website should have the tp information. I think the tp with the strongest signal is 11819 mhz and that is the one you want to be on when scanning the sky and tweaking your dish). It&#039;s the TP with the 3abm channel on it. I have had some luck with my 36 inch dish receiving some channels on amc 4 (3abm and gospel music tv) and telsat 5/galaxy 25 (foreign language channels and MHz worldwide), however I found the signals not to strong enough here in the east coast of canada to my satisfaction. Perhaps you will have better luck with your 1.2 metre dish. I suggest you scrap the starchoice lnb. I have yet to be able to find the correct lnb settings (under antennae setup because that lnb contains a switch and 2 eyes). So I recommend that you acquire a single linear LNB with a 0.2 db low noise factor firstly before you try looking for those satellites. Best of luck.</div>

 

[DishDigger]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Hoping to Help</b><br /> <br /> I hope my ignorance isn&#039;t showing too much, but I didn&#039;t notice any mention of whether or not the dish is an offset type. This might be part of your problem as the offset dishes receive signals about 20 to 25<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> degrees higher than they appear to be aimed. I think it&#039;s generally about 22 degrees (the more knowledgable folks here can straighten that out).<br /> <br /> I too am a newbe at this and mostly read to get educated, but thought I&#039;d throw this in &amp; hope it helps....</div>

 

[Luv2Travel34]

<div class="bbWrapper">Apparently you may be able use a starchoice quad lnb to tune a fta satellite. One website I found describes how to tune the Starchoice satellites with a fta receiver (for wildfeeds). &quot;Using the Star Choice elliptical dish (60cm or 75cm), set 22KHz to &quot;0&quot; on your FTA receiver if you are trying to lock on Anik F1 Mpeg-2 DVB carriers. Set 22KHz to &quot;22Khz/On&quot; on your FTA receiver if you are trying to lock on Anik F2 Mpeg-2 DVB carriers.<br /> The L/O should be set to 10750 (Standard on most FTA receivers).<br /> You can use any of the outputs of the Quad LNBF (they&#039;re all the same).&quot;<br /> So it may be worth a go after all, however remember to either skew your dish or rotate your LNB to the 11 o&#039;clock or 5 o&#039;clock position (east coast of canada) to compensate for the skew on the linear polarity satellites. It should work out better this way because Intelsat 5 (Galaxy 25) and AMC 4 are 4 degrees apart, the same gap as the starchoice sats are, so perhaps you may be able to get 2 sats on the same dish.</div>

 

[funkypc]

<div class="bbWrapper">My 60e SC LNB was not stacked. You need 22khz ON so it uses the &quot;center&quot; lnb. It worked great for FTA, just the 60e was a little small of a dish.</div>