Dish Satellite now under 5 Million subscribers/Sling under 2 Million.

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The main thing she despises more than anything is the remote has no labels, only lines. She absolutely despises that. These streamer remotes are definitely aimed at the younger set. We've had a Hopper since it came out and it just works and everything is labeled and easy to get to. She likes that.
 
An Edsel is still an Edsel.
FoMoCo's Edsel was a reasonably quality upscale/personal-luxury car. It just landed in a recessionary time where people were rethinking it all, including about large, gaudy, status symbol cars. It might have made it forward as a Mercury model, but as a new-launch make, its own new corporate division, both unfamiliar and out of step with the times, it was doomed, despite the backing of Ford. It's a lesson in bad marketing, not bad quality. Even if it did look like it was sucking a lemon, which undoubtedly made the situation all the worse and also devolves to bad marketing.

What if they had instead come out with an electric car at that time, even with limited range? Post-Edsel they were downsizing furiously, bringing forth compact models such as Falcon. The public might have caught the bug.

DiSH is an Edsel in that it remains a big full-price full linear service offering in a time where that outmoded paradigm and economic inefficacy are being questioned, ridiculed and jettisoned in a frenzy of cord cutting.

We will always have our old Model 3000 for the nostalgia shows. Just like the ol' '58.

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The main thing she despises more than anything is the remote has no labels, only lines. She absolutely despises that. These streamer remotes are definitely aimed at the younger set. We've had a Hopper since it came out and it just works and everything is labeled and easy to get to. She likes that.
Try the voice commands
 
Because I just know it won't, and that it can't. It's always going to understand what I'm asking it? Is it going to answer back that it needs more detail? it's just a little too much like I'm using AI 1.0
 
$25 a month for 1 gig, for two years with Spectrum. I'd be darned that their router was MUCH better than AT&T's. I didn't realize that what I thought was something else was the bloody router. Those buffering issues stopped when I swapped... after AT&T refused to lower my bill, after 25 years of high speed internet service. They wanted $80 or so a month for 1 gig, with no drop to a lower speed.


1gbit up and down here from att start out great was suppose to be $60 for life of service, with years time it went back up to $80 I complained about they gave us $49 for year which about to end, I Wonder what prices will be when it "up" I in no way like ATT fiber service there DNS that are hardcode and unchange able in the router are some WORSE DNS I ever used. you know how much of pain it is to change DNS setting on EVERY single wireless device...
 
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Only about 3.6% of Households in the United States, still have Dish Network.

For comparison, YouTube TV has about 10%.
I dropped Dish a couple years back after having them for 25 years. The pricing got higher and after we got high speed internet, I watched it less and less. It got to the point all I watched was TCM for classic movies. Many of them are on You Tube now and a Premium subscription is $14 a month. A far cry of the $100 a month was paying with AT180, Supers, and locals. I get locals OTA anyway. I took down the dish several months ago and tossed it. I owned all my my equipment, so nothing to return. Do I miss a traditional cable type service? No way. If I want one I have all of the free live streaming with Roku, the Fire Stick, as well as Google TV. Right now as I type this, I am watching episodes of "The Midnight Special" from 1976 on You Tube, ad free. Dish was fine for many years. I do not regret buying the equipment and installing it myself (No installers in 1999). I enjoyed Dish for many years. My thoughts, Dish & Direct will be forced to merge in time, or they both will be gone. Even cable companies are getting out of TV. Some are only selling the internet and phone packages.
 
A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
 
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A lot of it flows back to the 4 big networks.
Cable and satellite are their money tree.

But, in reality, each market need 1 or perhaps 2 news feeds - not 4 or more
In my area we get 2 news feeds spread over 4 local stations.
ABC/NBC (TEGNA)
Same news cast simulcast over both channels.

CBS/Fox (Sinclair)
Same news casters at 5pm, 6pm, 10pm.
Fox shows an hour at 9pm but same news casters.
 
EchoStar reached a deal to sell spectrum to SpaceX in two transactions in 2025 to further SpaceX's mobile-phone aspirations. As part of its consideration, EchoStar is due to receive about 262 million shares of SpaceX stock, a roughly 2% stake in the company, according to the SpaceX prospectus. That stake is now worth about $46 billion, Barron's calculates.
 
EchoStar reached a deal to sell spectrum to SpaceX in two transactions in 2025 to further SpaceX's mobile-phone aspirations. As part of its consideration, EchoStar is due to receive about 262 million shares of SpaceX stock, a roughly 2% stake in the company, according to the SpaceX prospectus. That stake is now worth about $46 billion, Barron's calculates.
Poor ole Charlie.
 
EchoStar reached a deal to sell spectrum to SpaceX in two transactions in 2025 to further SpaceX's mobile-phone aspirations. As part of its consideration, EchoStar is due to receive about 262 million shares of SpaceX stock, a roughly 2% stake in the company, according to the SpaceX prospectus. That stake is now worth about $46 billion, Barron's calculates.
Wow $46 billion in stock value? How can DISH even be talking about bankruptcy at this point?
 
You and others are the ones talking DISH bankruptcy for the past 10 years or more. Meanwhile, Charlie and DISH have just been chugging along. :)
Hey, 6 months to a year ago that was all I was reading in the industry apps about DISH and their future. But things can change, like Charlie Ergen selling off his 5g bandwidth to Elon and Space X and ATT. Didn't see that coming since he has spent billions to try to build out his network for the last 5 years. Now he has abandoned all those ideas for his own 5g network and he is now getting billions for the bandwidth he has accumulated. But they are still saying that he wants to sell off DISH TV and Sling TV to anyone that can take it and if not bankruptcy might be the way he goes out on these two companies. Even Cord Cutters was saying that we might see Sling TV go under by the end this year.
 
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I think the way we will see things go (my crystal ball) is Dish will buy DIRECTV and then Elon will buy Dish.
Why would Musk even want them?

Why would anyone pay anything for two providers that lose a million or more subscribers every year each?
 

Got some sad news to share. Claude Greiner died yesterday

DISH Hopper H3 Software version H710 available