dishstandsbyyou gives you a great credit for fox dispute
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The advantage to cord cutters now, is they have that outlet with SlingTV. Just like SlingMedia, Dish finds a way to keep their hooks in. That is a greatand bold move on Charlies part. We all have to give him props for that one. Even Mitch, who hates Dish, paidfor a Sling Box, and if he wants it on a tablet, has to pay Echostar again. Kinda makes one laugh.
Sure it is. Not currently because of the dispute. But, normally, it is. FBN isn't, though.
I can forgive the mistake. When Fox News first came to Dish it started at the second tier and stayed there for about a dozen years. Looking at the old EKB changes pages I saw FoxNews Free Preview listings as late as January 2009. It was moved down to the first tier after I was keeping track of such things.
On April 1, 2008, the day Sky Angel left satellite I ran the following entry:
4/1/08 (The EKB is a prank free zone this year)
On April 1, 2008, the day Sky Angel left satellite I ran the following entry:
4/1/08 (The EKB is a prank free zone this year)
- Channels 419 and 5419 Fox Sports Bay Area were transformed into Comcast Sports Bay Area today. The EPG name was changed from FOXBA to CSNBA. The HD channel 5419 is still not available to subscribers.
- Penthouse TV seems to have replaced TEN on channels 489 and 495 at 119?.
- The Sky Angel channels (9700 range except 9710) are all showing slates telling former Sky Angel subscribers that Sky Angel no longer provides satellite service and several former Sky Angel channels are available through Dish Network.
- Angel One -- Available channel 261 (Family Package, AT100 and up)
- Angel 2 -- Available channel 264 (Family Package, AT100 and up)
- KTV & Spirit TV -- Available channel 266 (Family Package, Free PI Pack, AT100 and up)
- Guardian Television Network (WSFJ TV 51 Newark/Columbus, OH) (Columbus Local package ONLY)
- Trinity Broadcasting Network -- Available channel 260 (Free PI Pack, Family Pack, AT100 and up)
- Cornerstone TV (WPCB TV 40 Pittsburgh, PA) Available Pittsburgh and Johnstown/Altoona local packages ONLY
- Home & Garden Television (AT100/Family Pack channel 112)
- The Hallmark Channel (AT250/Family Pack ch 185, DLMax 896)
- Hallmark Movie Channel (AT250/Family Pack ch 187)
- Fox News Channel (AT200/Family Pack channel 205)
I just sat down at my desk and see that you guys already figured it out. I looked back through the old brochures I have and see that Fox News was in the Top 200 back in the first part of 2009 and then was moved to the Top 120 at the end of 2009 and has been there ever since. This looks to be the time period where the Top 100 changed to the Top 120.
True, as Mr. Ergen spews his vitrol towards a (very valuable) partner publicly.
The full financial impact WILL NOT be realized for at least a month or so, longer if Fox News is not put back soon, main reason being the latency phase I've been talking about, the trickle down part. It takes time to schedule new service and an installation. Dish customers will not drop service until just before or the day that new service/equipment is installed
True, as Mr. Ergen spews his vitrol towards a (very valuable) partner publicly.
The full financial impact WILL NOT be realized for at least a month or so, longer if Fox News is not put back soon, main reason being the latency phase I've been talking about, the trickle down part. It takes time to schedule new service and an installation. Dish customers will not drop service until just before or the day that new service/equipment is installed
So sounds like old Charlie gave them a taste of there own medicine then? Kinda classic in the big picture...Wonder how they liked it?
Excuse me, but I don't remember any representatives of Fox going on a worldwide network slandering someone they're supposedly negociating with. I HAVE watched this which sticks to the facts and doesn't resort to petty name calling like Ergen did. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3964391010001/fox-viewers-fighting-dish-over-blackout/?#sp=show-clips
It's all about decorum and class. Obviously Ergen doesn't have either and when it comes to the way he treats his customers and "partners", his people skills suck.
You think that's objective? They are parroting the strengths that FOX is undoubtedly standing upon in the negotiations. They vilify DISH (and all content providers) for having tiered programming when it is the channels insisting on grouping. Numbers they're citing for "fox viewer massive complaints" through FOX orchestrated conduits amounts to ~1% of dish customers.
They also try to enhance their perceived position of strength by discounting DISH's relative position in the content provider rankings.
You have to consider the source for any information you are given.
I hope you don't watch the white house press secretary news briefings and believe everything they say. I mention this just to illustrate the idiom "take it with a grain of salt".
Again with the slander comments, for $&@/'s sake, it's not slander. Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
OK I'll bite. Change gears.
Would you say Ergen's name calling and childish behavior is befittin' of a quality CEO, a mature man that should exercise good people skills.....one who is supposed to be working with NOT AGAINST a partner? If I was talked down to like that, in public no less, I'd tell Ergen where he could shove his satelite transponders. Dish needs Fox. Fox does not need Dish.
Ergen calling Fox "arrogant" is the pot calling the kettle black.
Again, you fail to mention the flaw of that, when you fail to mention the underhanded tactics Fox is pulling also. Advising customers to switch. Saying it is Dish who is in control of Fox News on their satellite system. Lying about how many subs have left. I am not even calling Fox evil. This is called business. This is what both companies must do. So yes, I say Ergens BUISNESS attitude is befittin' of a quality CHAIRMAN(He is not the CEO) and is acceptable.OK I'll bite. Change gears.
Would you say Ergen's name calling and childish behavior is befittin' of a quality CEO, a mature man that should exercise good people skills.....one who is supposed to be working with NOT AGAINST a partner? If I was talked down to like that, in public no less, I'd tell Ergen where he could shove his satelite transponders. Dish needs Fox. Fox does not need Dish.
Ergen calling Fox "arrogant" is the pot calling the kettle black.
I Just watched the video (mind you I am a Foxnews fan), and it proves that what Charlie is saying is true, Foxnews is adding another channel into the negotiation.
They state that Dish has lost every carriage dispute this year. Curious to what are they basing this on? Just more FUD perpetuated by the news, like the 90,000 lost subscriber number Carry is making up.
If the negotiation tactics did not benefit Dish, they wouldn't continue the practice.
I'm sure there are some deals Dish would consider a "loss," but they must be winning most.
Winning doesn't mean they get everything wanted or asked for, just a deal they're relatively content with.
What is it they say about a good compromise? It is not a compromise unless both parties walk away feeling like they lost something afterwards?
Obviously some people don't like it when people tell the truth and get hot when the facts are presented.
What's more funny is that this is what Fox News channel is supposed to be about.
Charlie didn't say anything that wasn't true, as if he did a lawsuit would be filled now by Fox.
Fox News could be back on Dish TODAY they have already agreed to the pricing for Fox News and Fox business. The issue is Fox trying to raise the prices of other channels which are not part of this contract. And that is the sticking point.
If Fox News wants you to see them then this deal must be for Fox News and Fox Business only. The other channels will have to be negotiated when there contact is up which is over a year away.
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