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anyone wanna debate iphone vs winmo phones :)
 
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i just find it hard to believe, since i just learned recently, that the iphone couldnt do pic messaging, video, ect prior to this 3gs

ive had many phone before, non smart even, that could do this stuff
 
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i just find it hard to believe, since i just learned recently, that the iphone couldnt do pic messaging, video, ect prior to this 3gs

ive had many phone before, non smart even, that could do this stuff
I am shocked that so many people put up with the crap that you have to to use an iPhone. I'm not a big fan of Apple to begin with, and the fact that they keep releasing essentially sub-par phones at insane prices and that people still keep buying new ones is to me akin to going back to your rapist for seconds. I have a Motorola q9h with WinMo 6.1 and I love it. Granted its not PERFECT, but between its good battery life, .Net Compact Framework programability, and the fact that I can already send video and pictures via MMS with it make me feel better than anyone who walks around with an iPhone.
To all the people who praise the iPhone, I say, "Remove the App Store and all your Apps. Is it STILL that great of a phone?"
 
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i almost forgot, i heard you cant change the battery either
 
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i almost forgot, i heard you cant change the battery either
The 1st gen had the battery SOLDERED to the motherboard, and the steps to remove the 3G/3Gs battery were obviously made to be as complicated and error-prone as possible, as can be seen by this crazy procedure that you need to go through. And of course, they void the warranty when you want to change or replace your battery yourself.
 
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i really dont want to bash the iphone, i just want to know why they are so great, i havnet seen it yet. can someone please explain?
 
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i just find it hard to believe, since i just learned recently, that the iphone couldnt do pic messaging, video, ect prior to this 3gs

ive had many phone before, non smart even, that could do this stuff

thats where you are wrong, version 3.0 of the software brought about this stuff (mms, video is only available with 3gs) you could still send pictures through email. but yes it does it now, so really what do you want to debate, or did you want to just trash the iphone?
 
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The 1st gen had the battery SOLDERED to the motherboard, and the steps to remove the 3G/3Gs battery were obviously made to be as complicated and error-prone as possible, as can be seen by this crazy procedure that you need to go through. And of course, they void the warranty when you want to change or replace your battery yourself.

actually its this way, a battery is made up of ALOT of wasted space, and with the iphone and new macbooks if they put a onboard battery then they can get greater battery life, and a better build.. they do sacrifice switching out the battery but batteries generally last so many charge cycles anyways and the way the apple fanboys do it, they upgrade their phone every year as it is.
 
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thats where you are wrong, version 3.0 of the software brought about this stuff (mms, video is only available with 3gs) you could still send pictures through email. but yes it does it now, so really what do you want to debate, or did you want to just trash the iphone?

i want to know what makes it so great, i see all the hype, just dont understand it
my thoughts were started by this article
Will the iPhone 3GS Kill the Cheap Pocket Camera? | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

i guess i just dont get it
 
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i really don't want to bash the iphone, i just want to know why they are so great, i haven't seen it yet. can someone please explain?

you need to play with one to understand, the iphone runs VERY Smooth has the best web experience available, and has ipod software and TONS of apps...also the apps are some of the best, with a directv app available to record programs, I use chase, twitter, stocks, boygeniusreport all on a daily basis, plus tons of productivity apps and now push notifications.
 
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you need to play with one to understand, the iphone runs VERY Smooth has the best web experience available, and has ipod software and TONS of apps...also the apps are some of the best, with a directv app available to record programs, I use chase, twitter, stocks, boygeniusreport all on a daily basis, plus tons of productivity apps and now push notifications.


i have played with one, and an itouch, i was not amazed
i also keep hearing of rejected apps.
how can an app be rejected?
do you have to get them from the istore?
 
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i really dont want to bash the iphone, i just want to know why they are so great, i havnet seen it yet. can someone please explain?

i have played with one, and an itouch, i was not amazed
i also keep hearing of rejected apps.
how can an app be rejected?
do you have to get them from the istore?

now I am confused, you havent seen one yet, but you have played with it?also apps were being rejected for mature content at one point, also becuase of other excuses I am sure, and yes you have to get them from itunes and your app store.
and just because you were amazed means that the product isnt for you, I like my iphone, but I also like windows mobile in some areas, and altogether I am a blackberry man as I run two corporations, help here and have some other things cooking.
 
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now I am confused, you havent seen one yet, but you have played with it?also apps were being rejected for mature content at one point, also becuase of other excuses I am sure, and yes you have to get them from itunes and your app store.
and just because you were amazed means that the product isnt for you, I like my iphone, but I also like windows mobile in some areas, and altogether I am a blackberry man as I run two corporations, help here and have some other things cooking.

i meant i haven't seen why its so great, sorry for the confusion
it seems too proprietary to me, apple having the final say on what can and cant be developed.

i really want to try an android or linux phone someday, i have heard so little i think they are snaking in under the radar
 
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The iphone is so great because Apple spent a lot of money in advertising brainwashing the public into thinking it was great. The business model at Apple is that, in part of a cult mentality. If you tell the public that the iphone is going to revolutionize the cell phone industry, 100% of all Mac heads will accept that as fact. After 6 months of iphone mania a significant % of those mac head cultists who do want a power cell phone discovered many limitations so they complained and Apple produced improved version. Yet it still is not up to the power user's expectations. The phone itself is quite limited under the hood but more importantly, the AT&T exclusive keeps the internet usage stuck on slow speed compared to the competition. The only thing fast about it is the wifi which does not use AT&T. The slick OS coupled with wifi makes it as fast as any WM smart phone.

OK so much for the bad stuff other than no battery swap and no SD card swap no stereo BT. The good news is that the iphone does indeed have a superior operating system and has huge accessible internal memory. This makes it a very power phone as long as you are willing to hack into it to make if free to do as you wish. Many have done this and even a commercial application surfaced on the market that, opens things up, called jail breaking. While this use violates Apple's terms of agreement, according to them, it does open the phone for many powerful applications for the power user. However, you still can do only one thing at a time. WM6 allows you to open many applications, have stuff running in the background and just plain multitask until you run short on internal memory. On my win Mobile, I can open an mp3 file podcast, be listening to it via BT headset in stereo, then while listening either surf the web or play a game. When a phone call comes in the phone mutes the mp3 file while I take the call. When done the call is finished and the mp3 file picks up from pause so I can continue to listen. Then I may decide to launch my stock reports to check my portfolio. The weather monitor is updating radar on storms watch and then I can launch my aggregator to download more podcasts. Finally, if I should decide to watch some TV on my sling application I can do that too. Tethering is also available.

In my way of thinking, I say that the WM6+ phones/PDA's are more suited for the extreme power user wanting to multitask and do lots of stuff from his phone. The iphone user is one who places slick style and OS, impressive GUI that is fast and easy above lots of uses. The iphone user doesn't mind having to pay Apple every time he sneezes but the WM phone user loves the freedom to do lots of stuff without fear he has violated the law of some license agreement, or need to make an excuse he has done nothing wrong while doing exactly what Apple or AT&T says is not permitted.
If you buy into the iphonemania, be prepared to be dissatisfied if you want to do stuff not approved, be illegal, deny you are illegal, stuck with a slow arrogant carrier, and spend money every-itune-time you use the phone.
If all you want to do is use the iphone for a few calls in a good calling area, get some e-mail and listen to a few itunes, or impress your friends with your slick two finger zoom screen on your photos, you'll be pleased with the iphone. If you get up at 2AM to wait in line to get the next upgrade to iphone, you seriously need to see a doctor.

Well, that should be enough debate fodder for starters! Hey, I'm no Apple fan but I do own a Macbook Pro, including Final Cut Pro and my daugher's inlaws are all Machead cultists. I also own Apple stock from time to time. I say time to time because owning stock without buy low sell high is like putting money in the collection plate at church since Apple earns huge profits and never pays it's stock holder's dividends. You don't make anything off of Apple stock unless you sell it high. Trading Apple stock is like gambling. You win some and you lose some.
 
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Oh, and while I have used an ipod touch for two years, I don't find the text-entry system on the touch/iphone to be anything worth writing home about. I have a Samsung Omnia, and its touch screen isn't much better for entry, but at least it has a stylus, which helps immensely - and there are plenty of win-mobile phones with keyboards. In many ways I miss my Palm OS Treo. IT was a great phone. I just like the huge screen on on the Omnia.
 
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nice don, and I have to say one thing about mac, they do have a cult following that is for sure, but so does blackberry, and even winmo.
 
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nice don, and I have to say one thing about mac, they do have a cult following that is for sure, but so does blackberry, and even winmo.

Maybe crackberry does, but I don't know many people who are obsessed with their windows mobile phone the same way apple users are. :)
 

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