NCAA Football 2011-2012

VT will most likely get paired up with Auburn, at least from most bowl projections.

Yeah I see that now... hmm I'm not sure I'm really happy about that - I would hope they could still grab an at large spot but who knows. I just want them paired up against a good SEC team so maybe win and get a little bit of this sigma gone that they are a bad team cause they are not.
 
You crazy... VT earned their spot - Clemson is just a very good team that slipped a few times and already knew how to beat VT.. they are no fraud...this comment you made just has me laughin .... while I'm upset they lost and that the play calling was nothing more than a photo of the last Clemson game I can't ignore that they got beat but no worse than Oklahoma by 44-10 which VT lost 38-10 so why are you not harpin on them?? I know why you are a VT hater nothing more... both those teams lost and both are still very good teams no matter what you say.

Bottom line here is Okla St is very good and deserve those votes for the #2 spot ahead of a team LSU already beat so there ya go... Ohh and I PRAY VT gets paired up against Arkansas if they get the Chik Fila Bowl and beats them in that bowl game..

Still...can't ignore this

nothing more than SEC bias but at least you stated it before mouthing off..how about those SEC teams though? Wow Tenn 5-7, Kentucky 5-7, Miss St 6-6, Ole Miss 2-10..... so that's 4 teams with LOSING records however when I look at the ACC for example a conf you shat on in that comment they have 4 teams with losing records one of which is also 6-6 but at least they gave up their bowl game....hmmmmmm did I mention that the last two pro bowls there were more players from the ACC than any other conf in the last two pages of posts you say you read?

Clemson is not a very good team sorry. Very good teams do not "slip up" 2 times against far lessor teams. I understand their loss to USC. But NC State? and a weak GaTech?

Are they are good team? Sure they are, is VTech good? Sure but are they great? No way. They don't even get a shot at the title game if they were in the SEC (Clemson couldn't even get by 4/5th best team in the SEC)..

Great teams could be paired with anyone in the FBS and there be little doubt they could win. Sure they could lose it happens but they would certainly be the favorite.
 
Yeah I see that now... hmm I'm not sure I'm really happy about that - I would hope they could still grab an at large spot but who knows. I just want them paired up against a good SEC team so maybe win and get a little bit of this sigma gone that they are a bad team cause they are not.


Well if you get Auburn they are 4-4 in the SEC.. So that puts them about 6th best or so.
 
Been there, done that
12/01/11
By Rick Reilly
ESPN.com
Rick Reilly - No rematch for BCS title game - ESPN

A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Barack Obama.

Brandon Weeden and his Oklahoma State teammates should have a BCS advantage over Alabama because the Cowboys have not already lost to LSU.
Man, these SEC fans are good. The hate email came in before the column was even finished.


Hey Reilly:
I hope you get gangrene on your nose. Your so-called "article" ridiculing an LSU-Alabama rematch for the national championship was stupid. Just because you thought the first one was "boring" does not mean these are not the two best teams. Go back to your spider hole.

--Jimmy Tomjack, Birmingham, Ala.

The first LSU-Alabama game was more boring than Tim Tebow's porn stash. To play another one will be like remaking "J. Edgar" or attending a goiter convention.

But that's not why there should be no Dullapalooza II on Jan. 9 in the Superdome. There shouldn't be one because it makes the BCS honchos liars. This is their Twitter handle: @EveryGameCounts. But how can every game count if it doesn't matter who won the first one?

If you remember, LSU won the first game -- which resembled hippos taking a mud bath -- 9-6 (in OT, no less), in Tuscaloosa. Didn't hurt the Tide any. They're going to get a mulligan if we don't stop it. You have to figure, too, that, if Alabama had won, then LSU would only have one loss and the Tigers would get the redo. This is because, apparently, no conference can really play football in this country except the SEC, which invented the sport in 2006.

Meanwhile, four one-loss teams that didn't get two shots at the title will be playing in the Black Friday Pepper Spray Bowl. Afterward, they'll tweet about it at @EveryGameCountsUnlessAnSECTeamLoses.


Dear Communist:
You have the brains of half a worm. It's true that Alabama didn't qualify for their own conference title game, but they're still the second-best team in the country by a country mile. Go drink a can of Raid.

--Jacktom Jimmy, Tuscaloosa, Ala.

Sorry. Alabama playing in the title game is bonkers. A team that didn't even make its conference title game will be playing in the national title game? It's like Rick Perry withdrawing from the primaries and then going up against President Obama.

But imagine how idiotic this system is through LSU's binoculars. While the Bayou Bengals are beating their brains out against Georgia in the conference title game this Saturday at the Georgia Dome -- aka, the crime scene -- Alabama will be enjoying chicken wings and "Tosh.0" reruns and resting up.

"I won't lie to you," Alabama linebacker Dont'a Hightower told The Associated Press. "It's going to be good to get a week off. A lot of guys are banged up."

Welcome to BCS logic.

Of course, if Alabama wins Walking Dead II, the Tide will be … what? National champions? How? They'll have one loss, same as all the other contenders. They'll have split the home-and-home series with LSU. They won't even have won their SEC division, much less their conference. Yet they could wind up petting the crystal football.

Wouldn't that be special?



Yo, jackwagon:
You rail against a rematch, but who would you rather have play LSU? There's nobody else. Even No. 3 Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said this week that he wouldn't vote his team No. 2. Go pound tumbleweeds.

--Tommy Jim, Jackson, Ala.

Whom would I rather see? Any team that hasn't already blown its chance.

LSU vs. Oklahoma State (if the Cowboys beat Oklahoma on Saturday) would be tasty. And Gundy did say he'd consider his team for No. 2 if it beat OU.
Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds. A strength of schedule ranked 10th, compared with Alabama's at 38th. A team whose only loss was in double overtime to Iowa State the same week an OSU school plane crashed, killing two women's basketball coaches. A school that beat five teams with winning records to Alabama's three. A team with four wins over BCS top 25 teams to Alabama's two. Hello?

Or what about Stanford-LSU? Like the Houndstooths, the Cardinal only have one loss, theirs to an Oregon team faster than 4G. You don't think a Stanford team led by Heisman Trophy shoo-in QB Andrew Luck wouldn't make any SEC defense wonder whether to scream or go bowling?

What about LSU-Virginia Tech? The Hokies' only loss was to Clemson, which they could avenge Saturday in the ACC title game.

Or LSU vs. one-loss Boise State? The Broncos fell to TCU by just one point. You SEC fans remember Boise State, right? It went down south in Week 1 and beat Georgia? Georgia, the team that's one win from claiming your most holy and exalted SEC title?

With all these deserving teams, you still think Alabama should get another chance? You want Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian to remarry, too?

This SEC bias has to stop. The world of college football doesn't end at the Louisiana border.

The Rematch should make you want to Regurgitate. Two-thirds of the rankings are based on humans. Voters, be fair. We played this one already, and Alabama lost.



Follow Rick on Twitter @ReillyRick
 
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Clemson is not a very good team sorry. Very good teams do not "slip up" 2 times against far lessor teams. I understand their loss to USC. But NC State? and a weak GaTech?

Are they are good team? Sure they are, is VTech good? Sure but are they great? No way. They don't even get a shot at the title game if they were in the SEC (Clemson couldn't even get by 4/5th best team in the SEC)..

Great teams could be paired with anyone in the FBS and there be little doubt they could win. Sure they could lose it happens but they would certainly be the favorite.


good teams slip up.. Oklahoma slipped up it happens any givin saturday is the ole saying. But to say Clemson was better team last night yea they were - VT's playing calling was horrible- I felt like I was re-watching Oct 1sts game cept this time from the TV and not the stands...pisses me off to no ends we can't get rid of our offensive Cord unless we have a losing year or two and no fan wants that.
 
You crazy... VT earned their spot - Clemson is just a very good team that slipped a few times and already knew how to beat VT.. they are no fraud...this comment you made just has me laughin .... while I'm upset they lost and that the play calling was nothing more than a photo of the last Clemson game I can't ignore that they got beat but no worse than Oklahoma by 44-10 which VT lost 38-10 so why are you not harpin on them?? I know why you are a VT hater nothing more... both those teams lost and both are still very good teams no matter what you say.

Bottom line here is Okla St is very good and deserve those votes for the #2 spot ahead of a team LSU already beat so there ya go... Ohh and I PRAY VT gets paired up against Arkansas if they get the Chik Fila Bowl and beats them in that bowl game..

Still...can't ignore this

nothing more than SEC bias but at least you stated it before mouthing off..how about those SEC teams though? Wow Tenn 5-7, Kentucky 5-7, Miss St 6-6, Ole Miss 2-10..... so that's 4 teams with LOSING records however when I look at the ACC for example a conf you shat on in that comment they have 4 teams with losing records one of which is also 6-6 but at least they gave up their bowl game....hmmmmmm did I mention that the last two pro bowls there were more players from the ACC than any other conf in the last two pages of posts you say you read?

Don't hate VA Tech at all, I acknowledge they have been a legitimate top Ten- Fifteen program Most years, This year wasn't one of them. They never justified their high ranking. Zero Quality Wins

Difference in being a Proponent and Homer, I'm likely one of the few SEC guys with the honesty to acknowledge that OSU has as good a resume as Alabama, just depends where you put more stock the Wins or the Single loss. Also stated that I would have no problem with OSU being in the BCS Matchup.

Again no blind homer. The big point though is that any AQ qualifier from the ACC and Big East are terribly flawed. Both reside in mediocre at best and poor most years Conference. Big East in particular.

As for VA Tech matchup with Auburn that's about the right matchup. 4th Place team from SEC West vs ACC Championship Game participant. Should be a good matchup. You don't want Arkansas they would beat the crap out of VA tech far worse than Clemson did either time.

Keep in mind that vaunted Clemson team just had their asses handed to them by South Carolina(5th best SEC team) last week.

SEC is the best Conference, other Conferences though do play some quality Football and indeed have Quality teams. Just pointing out they Never reside in the Big East and rarely do from the ACC.
 
As for VA Tech matchup with Auburn that's about the right matchup. 4th Place team from SEC West vs ACC Championship Game participant. Should be a good matchup. You don't want Arkansas they would beat the crap out of VA tech far worse than Clemson did either time.

I disagree, they had some good quality wins this year just those teams fell to the wayside after getting beat by VT but at most many have good winning records still. As for this Auburn matchup ..to me that's a slap in the face to VT - and yeah I think VT could match up well against Arkansas even after last nights game - play calling must be different cause if it's identical to last night then nope vt will lose. David wilson even spoke up openly last night in an interview since he was the one getting hammered up front - "When we run our plays into their blitzes, its not going to work" and he's 100% right! Every other play was up the middle or designed run hardly to the outside of right or left tackle and you can't do that when Clemson was bringing the blitz every other play or loading the line with 7-8 guys. Stienspring needs to go PERIOD and I along with so many hokie fans have been calling for this to happen for years regardless if this year Mike Ocain is calling plays he's still using Stiensprings book and the talent is far too good to waste on this. Last weeks game against UVA a shut out showed just how good they are with a better mix of plays- talent is there just bad play calling on the offense. Hell I knew last night the game was over after we fumbled the fall on our first opening play.

Nope bring on a better SEC team let VT step up and win or lose at least they stepped up.
 
SEC is the best Conference, other Conferences though do play some quality Football and indeed have Quality teams. Just pointing out they Never reside in the Big East and rarely do from the ACC.

Also as for SEC being the best Conf.. I disagree big time they may have some top quality teams 1 or 2 of which may or may not play for the national title and win it but looking at the bottom half...well that's still part of the Conference and it doesn't look that great.
 
Also as for SEC being the best Conf.. I disagree big time they may have some top quality teams 1 or 2 of which may or may not play for the national title and win it but looking at the bottom half...well that's still part of the Conference and it doesn't look that great.


Wake up ,those bottom half SEC teams would be much better in any other Conference.

Tennessee(my alma mater) A bad team with No excuses and a hard schedule finished 5-7 a dismal season by all accounts. They manhandled Big least Co Champ Cincy

South Carolina kicked Clemson's ass Vandy skull drug Wake Forest on the road.

That's my point the top tier teams from the ACC and Big least would be lower tier also rans in the SEC.

Those 6-6 ACC teams would be 2-10 teams in the SEC. Those 6-6 SEC teams would be 8-4/9-3 teams in the ACC. Would be Conference Champ Contenders in the Big Least.

In closing ACC and Big least in particular are terribly weak, to mediocre on their best day.Thus waxing poetic about the record also has to take into account the terribly weak teams/schedules that lead to those records.
 
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I woke up a long time ago... there has to be a winner and has to be a loser but stats say a lot more than what just shows up at the end of the game as in score. SEC has a bunch of bottom feeders each year - so do other conf, with that the "this conf is better, that conf is better" changes every year - going to change every week sometimes it's just how it is.
 
Coaches Poll is out. OSU made up 134 pts and only 32 separate OSU and Bama now. It will be close, but I think Bama will still get by in a very close vote.

1 LSU (59) 13-0 1475 1
2 Alabama 11-1 1399 2
3 Oklahoma State 11-1 1367 5
4 Stanford 11-1 1286 4
5 Oregon 11-2 1232 7
 
Hopefully the chaos caused by either Alabama or OSU being left out will be the impetus for drastic change.

Hope so system is terribly flawed and needs changing.

Good place to start is with stripping the AQ status for the Big Least.

They never deserved it.
 
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Looks like predictions are that OSU will need to be 5 pts ahead of Bama in the Harris Poll this afternoon in order to jump them in the BCS

Honestly, if there was one besides computer that they jump them in, I figured it would be the coaches.
Who knows. Gonna be some broken hearts on one campus or another.
Man we need a plus one, both teams have a legitimate argument IMO.
That said, I obviously still want Bama to get the nod. ;)
 
What gets me is Clemson is ranked below VT in the coaches poll. They blasted them twice this season and are ranked lower.
 
What gets me is Clemson is ranked below VT in the coaches poll. They blasted them twice this season and are ranked lower.

Yep. It's disgraceful.

Any Coaches poll should be taken out. Coaches have tunnel vision and agendas.

Some media do also, but most of the AP scribes seem to take it seriously and the good ones usually blog or try to explain the thought process that goes with their vote.

Would be far better to use AP as either the Coaches poll or the Harris poll.
 
Didn't really surprise me. You would think Clemson would have been above them, but the coaches play favorites as much as the media. They have for years. The Bowden's were notorious for it.

I don't see us making up 357 pts in the Harris and most of the computer rankings are out already.
 
What gets me is Clemson is ranked below VT in the coaches poll. They blasted them twice this season and are ranked lower.

I agree to a point here but VT also beat GT whom beat Clemson.. also a few better wins during the year but yeah I figured at least 1 spot above but ohh well. I'm hoping Vt stays at least at #14 or #15 in BCS.
 

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