Need help with pansat 2500a

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Tatsuya2000

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Hello, I got a pansat 2500a and a 30" disc, I live in Appleton, WI and i want to get the AMC4 signal, (110W) . I dont really know what does that mean except somewhere at West side.
So i connected the disc to reciever through (IF INPUT) then connect the receiver to my TV through (TV OUT).
And then i tried to move the disc around the west side but i coulnt' find any Quality signal only str signal (70-76%). I tried alot of different SATs but i coulndt find any quality signal at all.
Could anyone tell me the exact angel i need to point my disc at and how to set the reciever up. Do i need to flash my reciever or something?
Thank you.
 

PSB

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WELCOME to the SatelliteGuys.US FTA forum, no need to flash or update software for the LEGAL channels.

Here are all the angles to the satellites from your area. If you think you are close try a Blind Scan!


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Appleton, WI 54915
         Latitude 44° 15.810'N Longitude 88° 23.994'W

                       Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
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                       Amos 1/2    4.0W  93.9  97.3 -4.7 -45.6
                               
                Atlantic Bird 3    5.0W  94.6  98.0 -4.0 -45.5
                               
                Nilesat 101/102    7.0W  96.0  99.4 -2.5 -45.4
                               
     Telecom 2D/Atlantic Bird 2    8.0W  96.7 100.2 -1.8 -45.3
                               
                     Express A3   11.0W  98.9 102.3  0.3 -45.0
                               
                     Telstar 12   15.0W 101.8 105.2  3.1 -44.5
                               
                   Intelsat 901   18.0W 104.0 107.4  5.2 -44.0
                               
                          NSS 7   22.0W 107.0 110.4  8.0 -43.2
                               
                   Intelsat 905   24.5W 108.9 112.3  9.8 -42.7
                               
                   Intelsat 907   27.5W 111.2 114.7 11.9 -41.9
                               
                  Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 113.2 116.7 13.6 -41.2
                               
                   Intelsat 801   31.5W 114.5 117.9 14.6 -40.7
                               
                   Intelsat 903   34.5W 117.0 120.4 16.6 -39.7
                               
                    AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 119.6 123.0 18.6 -38.5
                               
                        NSS 806   40.5W 122.2 125.7 20.6 -37.3
                               
                      Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 124.5 128.0 22.1 -36.2
                               
                         Pas 1R   45.0W 126.4 129.9 23.4 -35.2
                               
                   Intelsat 705   50.0W 131.4 134.8 26.4 -32.5
                               
                   Intelsat 707   53.0W 134.5 137.9 28.0 -30.7
                               
                   Intelsat 805   55.5W 137.2 140.6 29.4 -29.1
                               
                          Pas 9   58.0W 140.0 143.4 30.7 -27.4
                               
                       Amazonas   61.0W 143.4 146.8 32.1 -25.3
                               
                     EchoStar 3   61.5W 144.0 147.4 32.3 -24.9
                               
                      Rainbow 1   61.5W 144.0 147.4 32.3 -24.9
                               
               Estrela do Sul 1   63.0W 145.8 149.2 33.0 -23.8
                               
                   Brasilsat B2   65.0W 148.2 151.6 33.9 -22.2
                               
                   Brasilsat B1   70.0W 154.5 157.9 35.8 -17.9
                               
                       Nahuel 1   71.8W 156.9 160.3 36.3 -16.3
                               
                      DirecTV 1   72.5W 157.8 161.2 36.6 -15.7
                               
                          AMC 6   72.0W 157.1 160.6 36.4 -16.2
                               
                          SBS 6   74.0W 159.8 163.2 37.0 -14.3
                               
                     Echostar 4   77.0W 163.9 167.3 37.7 -11.5
                               
                          AMC 5   79.0W 166.7 170.1 38.1  -9.5
                               
                      Nimiq 2/3   82.0W 170.9 174.3 38.6  -6.5
                               
                          AMC-9   83.0W 172.3 175.7 38.7  -5.5
                               
                   Brasilsat B3   84.0W 173.7 177.1 38.8  -4.5
                               
                          AMC 2   85.0W 175.1 178.6 38.9  -3.5
                               
                          AMC 3   87.0W 178.0 181.4 39.0  -1.4
                               
                           IA-8   89.0W 180.9 184.3 39.0   0.6
                               
                      Galaxy 11   91.0W 183.7 187.1 38.9   2.7
                               
                     Nimiq 1/4i   91.0W 183.7 187.1 38.9   2.7
                               
                   Brasilsat B4   92.0W 185.2 188.6 38.9   3.7
                               
                      Telstar 6   93.0W 186.6 190.0 38.8   4.7
                               
                      Galaxy 3C   95.0W 189.4 192.8 38.6   6.7
                               
                      Telstar 5   97.0W 192.2 195.6 38.3   8.7
                               
                      Galaxy 4R   99.0W 195.0 198.4 37.9  10.7
                               
                     Spaceway 2   99.2W 195.3 198.7 37.8  10.9
                               
                DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 197.8 201.2 37.4  12.6
                               
                          AMC 4  101.0W 197.8 201.2 37.4  12.6
                               
                     Spaceway 1  103.0W 200.5 203.9 36.9  14.5
                               
                          AMC 1  103.0W 200.5 203.9 36.9  14.5
                               
                         AMC 15  105.0W 203.1 206.6 36.3  16.3
                               
                      Anik F1/R  107.3W 206.1 209.6 35.6  18.4
                               
                      DirecTV 5  109.5W 208.9 212.4 34.8  20.3
                               
                EchoStar 6/8/10  110.0W 209.6 213.0 34.6  20.7
                               
                        Anik F2  111.1W 210.9 214.4 34.2  21.6
                               
                  Solidaridad 2  113.0W 213.3 216.7 33.4  23.1
                               
                       SatMex 5  116.8W 217.8 221.2 31.6  26.0
                               
                     DirecTV 7s  119.0W 220.3 223.7 30.6  27.6
                               
                     EchoStar 7  119.0W 220.3 223.7 30.6  27.6
                               
          EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 222.5 225.9 29.5  28.9
                               
                     Galaxy 10R  123.0W 224.7 228.1 28.5  30.2
                               
                      Galaxy 14  125.0W 226.8 230.2 27.4  31.5
                               
                  Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 228.8 232.3 26.2  32.6
                               
 Intelsat Americas 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 230.8 234.3 25.1  33.7
                               
                         AMC 11  131.0W 232.8 236.2 23.9  34.8
                               
                   Galaxy 1R/15  133.0W 234.7 238.1 22.6  35.8
                               
                         AMC 10  135.0W 236.6 240.0 21.4  36.7
                               
                          AMC 7  137.0W 238.4 241.8 20.1  37.6
                               
                          AMC 8  139.0W 240.2 243.6 18.8  38.4
                               
                   EchoStar 1/2  148.0W 247.7 251.2 12.8  41.5

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PSB

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Nov 5, 2003
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AMC-4 is at 101w, you can use a DirecTV receiver and LNB to find this satellite then switch to the FTA receiver and KU linear LNB, peak the signal and you are on AMC-4 :)

What channels are you after?
 

Tatsuya2000

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May 7, 2006
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Need help install 2500a

I got a pansat 2500a and a 30" disc but i can't set it up so could any1 help me ?
i live in appleton WI 54914, all i get is 70-75% signal str and no quality signal
could some1 tell me the right angel/attitude for AMC4 satellite and how to set it up please? right now it's pointed straight west at 35 degree.
the disc is connected to reciever through IF INPUT and the reciever's connected to TV through TV OUTPUT.
i have no moto.
thank you very much.
 

PSB

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Nov 5, 2003
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Please keep all your posts on the same subject in the same thread, you will get more help that way :)
 

Tatsuya2000

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i'm really new to that could you explain for me those Az/ At and stuffs, are those the information for me to set the disc or to set it up in the receiver?
and if it's for the disc what do they mean?
ty
 

Mark_AR

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Nov 17, 2003
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North Arkansas
Satellite is a little more complex than plug it in and go.

A lot of patience helps.

First. A dish pointing at the ground will give you a signal strength of 70+ on a Pansat 2500A.

AMC4 is located at 101 and not 110.

Make sure you know what kind of Ku band LNBF you have. It will either be a Standard LNBF or UNIVERSAL. Knowing this is important because the 2500 puts a different LNBF frequency in for each.

From the beginning:

Make sure your mounting tube is level up and down all the way around. This will make pointing much, much easier.

On the back of the dish, line up the mark with 37.4 like in PSB's post. This will get you close on the up/down (elevation) part of it.

See pic: The picture shows my dish set to 26.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=1850&d=1098066916

Here is another pic: AMC 4 Setup screen from last year.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=1420&d=1093234819

Next get a compass and look at it. The point should be at 180 and 0. Now without moving the compass, look toward the west to where the compass numbers are at 200. You want to point the LNB in that direction to just past 200. You can start before 200 if you wish and nudge it west until you hit something.

AIMING:

Now in your antenna setup menu set it to AMC 4 Ku.

Standard or Universal
Standard LNBF with a FREQ of 10750
(Unless you have a universal LNB)

Go down to TP
Set your TP to 4 which should be default of 11822 and 5.700
This gives me the strongest signal to work with.

Now move your dish just a hair at a time until your signal strength goes above 70 and you see the quality bar start to jump around. Very small movements are needed here. You can swing past it if you move it too much at one time.

Once the quality bar moves above 30, you are very close now.

You may have to move the arm up or down a hair or maybe left or right to get the quality past 30. Once you get it in the green, you can do a scan. From here you can twist the LNB a little bit to fine tune the SKEW. This is just another tuning adjustment.

You may also have to slide the LNB forward or backward in the bracket to focus it a little better. Here again, patience is what gets you a better signal. It isn't mandatory, but is more for fine tuning. Right now we just want quality above 30.

You are pointing your dish at something 23,000 miles away and about the size of a car. It will take time.

Once you get the highest quality. Tighten everything down and check to make sure you still have good quality.

SCAN:

You should get Lawyer TV, DMC and TAN TV as well as several other TV(18) and radio(8) stations.

I just went outside and leaned a 30" Winegard up against a propane tank and a board and was able to dial in AMC 4 at 83 strength and 90+ quality in about 10 minutes without a compass. (See pic)

Good Luck and Welcome!!
*edit* added pic of AMC4 setup screen.
 

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