Owning vs Leasing

[AIsmail]

Curious to know if I have to pay any additional charges per month if I purchase my own receiver? Long story short, the refurbished 211 they gave me is acting up in the audio department. I can get a new unit for $100. If that helps me to avoid the leasing fee, I may do so. Thanks in advance.

 

[navychop]

Nope. Monthly fee the same, own or lease.

 

[navy8ball]

I think its better to lease now. I owned 3 508 and a 510 and when I upgraded to HD receiver i now have 4 receivers collecting dust.

 

[TheKrell]

The 508's are desirable because they incur no DVR fee. Sell them and recover some of your money. I think I got $85 for my 501 last year.

 

[Scherrman]

There is no longer an advantage to owning a receiver anymore. At least your main receivers that is.

 

[spltfngr66]

Does anybody else think that it is crazy they are charging equipment fees for receivers not owned by them?

 

[Bob Haller]

Does anybody else think that it is crazy they are charging equipment fees for receivers not owned by them?

insane isnt it?

Es new direction is going to hurt them bad once the next quarters results are in.

But heck charlie said on air were expensive keep sending your paychecks ........

they will care once churn eats at their bottom line

Or all providers will jack up fees dramatically

 

[skyviewmark]

Does anybody else think that it is crazy they are charging equipment fees for receivers not owned by them?

They don't charge you an equipment fee if you own the receiver. They do, however charge you a mirroring fee which just happens to be the same cost as the equipment fee..

 

[Scherrman]

I've never heard of a mirroring fee. It's just a secondary receiver fee.

 

[navychop]

Whatever they call it, we just need to decide if the total bill is worth it, and move to another provider if not (& if it's cheaper elsewhere). No point in getting upset.

 

[Bobby]

Whatever they call it, we just need to decide if the total bill is worth it, and move to another provider if not (& if it's cheaper elsewhere). No point in getting upset.

That's too simple, Navy! There are people who thrive on 'upset.'

 

[harshness]

insane isnt it?

No more insane than charging a monthly fee for a CableCard.

 

[harshness]

There is no longer an advantage to owning a receiver anymore.

This presumes that there was ever an advantage to owning. I think you would be hard pressed to make a case for owning at any point since leasing has been available.

 

[Bob Haller]

cable card fee is cheap like 3 or 4 bucks a month.

i prefer owning sat receivers since i churned thru new models and sold my cast offs fopr a good price.

made big bucks on legacy dishplayers and was free to upgrade hard drives, my 522s got upgraded to 625s.

cant do any of this with leased boxes

Even leased boxes have upgrade fees. sometimes 200 bucks.

With careful shopping I could often buy boxes pretty cheap.

The real loser was my 721, it was so unreliable I dumped it just to be rid of it and its 7 minute reboot time. That box was a train wreck of software with no limits, put in too many timers box would crash and endlessely reboot till you got back under the max timer limit no one at E knew about, wouldnt download new software off a 3 sat system, had really bad tuners, lip synch and spontaneous reboots, taking 7 minutes to recover, the list of hassles was endless

my 522s and 625s were the best of all the DVR receivers I had. They just worked nearly all of the time.

all in all i did good with owning my boxes and no return shipping fees at cancelation

Somethinmg I really like about my TIVO, turn tv on its on no waking up receiver

 

[whatchel1]

No

insane isnt it?

Es new direction is going to hurt them bad once the next quarters results are in.

But heck charlie said on air were expensive keep sending your paychecks ........

they will care once churn eats at their bottom line

Or all providers will jack up fees dramatically

No I think it may be a good thing. They got rid of you and goaliebob.

 

[Bob Haller]

No I think it may be a good thing. They got rid of you and goaliebob.

yeah its every companies goal to increase churn dramatically to 750,000 and shrink by 19,000........ heck replacement customers only cost about 700 bucks each....

every stock holders dream

 

[whatchel1]

yep

yeah its every companies goal to increase churn dramatically to 750,000 and shrink by 19,000........ heck replacement customers only cost about 700 bucks each....

every stock holders dream

To get rid of a customer like you I would've done almost anything when I had a biz. You are to high maintenance w/ too little return. Quit belaboring the point that you feel the beancounters are screwing customers. We all know your feelings, you've said it a million times. Frankly we are just tired of hearing you whine & moan.

 

[Bob Haller]

my bill must of averaged 100 bucks a month for 13 years, some $15,600.00

in that time i never asked for a free upgrade, or any other freebie...

I bought and installed all my own system too. kept the phone line connected too.

far from being a poor customer i was a ideal one.......

rarely called E for much of anything......

 

[whatchel1]

my bill must of averaged 100 bucks a month for 13 years, some $15,600.00

in that time i never asked for a free upgrade, or any other freebie...

I bought and installed all my own system too. kept the phone line connected too.

far from being a poor customer i was a ideal one.......

rarely called E for much of anything......

Sure is hard to tell that from the way you act here.

 

[Bob Haller]

E was a hobby....... one i really enjoyed

watching tv was merely a side benefit..I would of remained a dealer but got very cold intolerant after losing 140 pounds after weight loss surgery... winter installs became impossible.....