Seeing a sudden spike in customers wanting Dish Network

[dishstaller]

Now I'll say up front that I am the ONLY Dish retailer anywhere in our area. I'm located in the panhandle of FL. Sales had slowed to a virtual halt the past couple of years....doing one or two a month vs in the past when 20-30 was the norm. Anyway, the past couple of weeks we've seen a surge, well, a surge for me anyway. Mostly it seems to be DTV customers who are very unhappy. Obviously DTV has gotten even harder to deal with which is an astounding concept to think about.

 

[ERSanders]

I've been hypothicizing that with the fragmentation of programs on various streaming services and the increased pricing there may be a return to Dish-like providers. Also the hunt/agree/start vs a DVR which has many of your viewing preferences imbedded bothers me. Serial streaming is not my favorite way to view.

 

[Bruce]

I've been hypothicizing that with the fragmentation of programs on various streaming services

Except for the fact you are ignoring, all those streaming shows, Landman, Dutton, Tulsa, Netflix (too many to name), etc, etc, will never be on Traditional Providers.

But, all the shows on Broadcast/Cable Channels, are on the Streaming Services, in better quality, for example, CBS shows, are in 4K next day on Paramount+.

and the increased pricing there may be a return to Dish-like providers.

While streaming services do go up every year, so does Dish ( just happened) and everyone else.

A traditional TV service is still about $50-70 more ( with less content) than all the services I have.

Also the hunt/agree/start vs a DVR which has many of your viewing preferences imbedded bothers me. Serial streaming is not my favorite way to view.

Again, I want new scripted content, the only way to get the majority of that, is streaming, going to a service, finding what you want, hitting ok takes a few seconds, having a DVR would not make a difference to me, if the content I want is not there.

 

[dishstaller]

These tend to be customers who simply want to turn on the TV and punch in a number and the channel is there. Simplicity seems to be the desire.

The one I sold this morning doesn't even HAVE internet so any type of streaming is, of course, out of the question.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Bruce does not understand simplicity.

 

[Bruce]

Bruce does not understand simplicity.

Streaming is simple.

I remember multiple times when I had Paid Live TV, going up and down a guide, never finding anything, just a bunch of reruns or awful fake reality shows.

Today, that is not a issue.

 

[navychop]

When I turn on streaming, I have to decide which:

YT
DTV MyEntertainment
HBO Max
Prime Video
Disney Plus ( never watch )
Hulu (never watch)


Each has a different way of presenting material, and storing and accessing that stored material. Up and down on the Apple TV compass, and other keys, may not work consistently across the channels.

Sometimes I can't skip commercials. Non starter.

 

[navychop]

And I LIKE certain reality shows:

BBQ Brawl
Project Runway
Veterinary shows
Zoo shows
Food Trucks

Note that HBO Max adds unrequested shows to "My Stuff" (library), which is annoying and slows my search for what I saved there.

 

[dishdude]

Streaming is simple.

I remember multiple times when I had Paid Live TV, going up and down a guide, never finding anything, just a bunch of reruns or awful fake reality shows.

Today, that is not a issue.

A lot of older people struggle with it, they also aren't picky about what they watch. They just want the TV on, happy with news and stuff we would consider crap - daytime talk shows, reruns, old movies. They just sit down not knowing what is on and channel up/down or punch in a number for a channel that has content they usually like.

Younger people sit down with a show in mind that they want to watch, bring it up and binge on episodes.

 

[navychop]

A lot of older people struggle with it, they also aren't picky about what they watch. They just want the TV on, happy with news and stuff we would consider crap

Come over here. Yes, closer. Get within range of this cane……

 

[dishdude]

Come over here. Yes, closer. Get within range of this cane……

I wouldn't want to interrupt your viewing of Matlock

 

[Mr Tony]

A lot of older people struggle with it, they also aren't picky about what they watch. They just want the TV on, happy with news and stuff we would consider crap - daytime talk shows, reruns, old movies.

You just describes my dad to a T. When I go visit he always seems to watching some black and white program. Its either that or the network for the news....he is one of them who will watch the morning news, then at 11, noon...etc etc etc. Like the weather is different from what channel 11 says versus channel 5 versus channel 4. When WWE was on Peacock it was a BEAR for him to "remember" how to select HDMI 2 to switch to the Roku or whatever streaming device he has to watch Peacock.

 

[dishstaller]

I wouldn't want to interrupt your viewing of Matlock

Or Murder She Wrote

 

[NYDutch]

A lot of older people struggle with it, they also aren't picky about what they watch. They just want the TV on, happy with news and stuff we would consider crap - daytime talk shows, reruns, old movies. They just sit down not knowing what is on and channel up/down or punch in a number for a channel that has content they usually like.

Younger people sit down with a show in mind that they want to watch, bring it up and binge on episodes.

I'm 83 and currently binging on "America's Heartland" on PBS.

 

[Bruce]

A lot of older people struggle with it, they also aren't picky about what they watch. They just want the TV on, happy with news and stuff we would consider crap - daytime talk shows, reruns, old movies. They just sit down not knowing what is on and channel up/down or punch in a number for a channel that has content they usually like.

Younger people sit down with a show in mind that they want to watch, bring it up and binge on episodes.

They are not all the same, my step father is 80, been a cord cutter for years, no live TV service.

My fiancée's parents are in their mid 70s, while they have YTTV, most of the viewings consist of shows from Paramount+ and Netflix.

Then myself, a year from 60, been streaming exclusively since 2016 with Playstation Vue, dropped Paid Live TV over 3 years ago, when I realized what a waste of money it is, with so little new content and too high of a price for what you get.

 

[HipKat]

Bruce does not understand simplicity.

Bruce also does not understand that most of the aging base demographic has watched TV with a cable box for the last 40 years and doesn't always understand streaming. Or, as posted above, most of their viewing is local or live news and older shows, to which he'll reply that since he does, everyone should. BTW, I have THREE new connects today, probably all coming from DTV

Streaming is simple.

I remember multiple times when I had Paid Live TV, going up and down a guide, never finding anything, just a bunch of reruns or awful fake reality shows.

Today, that is not a issue.

As I was saying...

 

[Bruce]

Bruce also does not understand that most of the aging base demographic has watched TV with a cable box for the last 40 years and doesn't always understand streaming, to which he'll reply that since he does, everyone should.

And you do not understand, more households here in the states do not have a Live TV than those that do.

from here-https://www.lightreading.com/video-streaming/us-pay-tv-sheds-2m-subscribers-in-q1

US pay-TV ended Q1 with 62.23 million subscribers

There are 133 Million Households now in the US, so about 70 Million go without, I would assume there are some of the older folks in that number.

And I gave a couple a couple examples of the aging population that do stream exclusively, NYDutch posted in this thread that he does the same at 83.

Just because someone is older, does not mean they cannot learn/do new and certain things, as you implied.

Amazing how so many assume that about our aging population.

BTW, I have THREE new connects today, probably all coming from DTV

And yet, Dish keeps reporting losses every quarter.

 

[HipKat]

And you do not understand, more households here in the states do not have a Live TV than those that do.

Because you go to more "households" than I do, right? How many of those "households" are people who fit the average age of people who still subscribe to cable services??
Of course, that's a shrinking crowd, because they're dying off. Does that mean they should be discredited or expected to know what you know or do as you do, as you often seem to think?

from here-https://www.lightreading.com/video-streaming/us-pay-tv-sheds-2m-subscribers-in-q1

US pay-TV ended Q1 with 62.23 million subscribers

There are 133 Million Households now in the US, so about 70 Million go without, I would assume there are some of the older folks in that number.

And I gave a couple a couple examples of the aging population that do stream exclusively, NYDutch posted in this thread that he does the same at 83.

Just because someone is older, does not mean they cannot learn/do new and certain things, as you implied.

Amazing how so many assume that about our aging population.

And yet, Dish keeps reporting losses every quarter.

With your pompous "smarter than everyone" attitude, it's amazing how you can't seem to be smart enough to recognize how weary people are of it.

"But I can....
But I do...
But I did...
But I know..."

 

[Bruce]

Because you go to more "households" than I do, right? How many of those "households" are people who fit the average age of people who still subscribe to cable services??

I posted the numbers, instead of attacking me, debate the subject with numbers/links of your own.

Of course, that's a shrinking crowd, because they're dying off. Does that mean they should be discredited or expected to know what you know or do as you do, as you often seem to think?

I did not discredited the older population, you did, by assuming they could not handle today's technology that is needed to stream.

With your pompous "smarter than everyone" attitude, it's amazing how you can't seem to be smart enough to recognize how weary people are of it.

"But I can....
But I do...
But I did...
But I know..."

And once again, attacking another member instead of debating the subject.

I have never went after another member here if I disagreed with them, always used links to prove what I have been posting, just because you do not like what I have written, does not give you the excuse to do so.

 

[Mister B]

One thing that I like about traditional linear TV is looking through the guide with my morning coffee and deciding what I want to record for that day. Part of the entertainment value is seeing if a channel is airing a new or different show or even just rearranged their schedule.
Yes, I watch a lot of old cop shows with Big Bang or Young Sheldon thrown in just for fun. But some days I feel like Science or History, or Science Fiction. I may even want to calm down near bed time with a home remodeling show. I think it would take several streaming services for all of this.