What does an AT&T fiber install require?

[steecoe]

Can this be a self install? Is there a physical cable or wire that needs to be ran fresh from the road? How does the connection get to me inside the house? I am thinking of ditching xfinity wifi & bundling AT&T fiber with my Directv. Will an installer need access to my house? Just the outside?

 

[dtv757]

If your location has never had fiber them they need to run the fiber to your house and install equipment.

If att fiber is similar to vz fios an ONT needs to be installed .



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[steecoe]

If your location has never had fiber them they need to run the fiber to your house and install equipment.

If att fiber is similar to vz fios an ONT needs to be installed .



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This was very helpful, thanks!!

 

[Inclined Orbit]

When I upgraded from DSL over copper to ATT 100mbps service over fiber, they had to run the fiber from the pole into my house and install the hardware near where my old DSL modem lived. They patched the new VOIP phone service from the new modem into the phone junction box that feeds the whole house and patched in my existing Ethernet cables running all over the house. ATT installed two boxes in addition to the modem/router, a fiber to wire converter and a battery backup for the converter. Everything worked just as before they arrived only much much faster.

 

[Claude Greiner]

They will have to come inside. There are no self install options.

 

[HoTat2]

Have AT&T Fiber 1 gig service here. ...

Basically it's a fiber-optic cable drop line from the utility pole to the home where it first connects to a device called a "slack-NID" where the fiber cable is switched from an external type to an internal in home one.

Then from there it's an internal fiber type to an ONT which converts the fiber-optic light signals to ethernet electrical signals. Then from there it's by an ethernet cable to a gateway device, usually either an Arris model BGW-210 or Pace 5268AC. Where in a FTTH installation only functions as a router and WAP (if chosen) since the "modem" function is actually preformed by the ONT which is a physically separate device from the gateway.

And then finally from the gateway is the interface point to the home LAN network.

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[steecoe]

Excellent info guys, thanks! I am a do it myselfer with a basement reminiscent of your favorite episode of hoarders (well maybe not THAT bad lol) & I just need to make the install as easy as possible for the poor soul that hasta do my install..
So if I am getting the picture correct, essentially, as long as I have an available power outlet and one end of a Cat6 cable in place in the service entrance where the cable/phone/electric enters the basement, with the other end running to the computer area where I currently have the cable modem, then the installer will run a new drop to the side of the house, as I have never had any sort of fiber service, from the pole in through to the same service entrance in the basement & then connect the fiber line to a new ONT in the service closet, connect it to a power backup as well as the aforementioned cat6 cable that is patiently waiting, connecting it to the gateway at my desk/computer area, then Bob's your Uncle - blazing fast 4k porn downloads - I mean netflix, does this sound about correct?

 

[HoTat2]

Yeah, that's essentially it. ....

They'll mount the slack-NID box either somewhere outside or inside the service entrance whereas the ONT must always be inside as it's not weatherproof. And the battery backup for the ONT is only given if you subscribe to AT&T's VoIP phone service as well.

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[jamieh1]

I had Suddenlink internet for years. Service started sucking over last couple of years. I’m lucky enough to have another provider that offers fiber it’s my local phone co op.

 

[HoTat2]

Of course that's more of an integrated system similar to the Verizon FiOS approach.

Where the slack cabling coil, ONT, linear TV RF demodulator, and VoIP terminal electronics and jacks are all integrated into the same box collectively called the "ONT."

Whereas with AT&T Fiber, the NID box containing the slack loop cabling and the ONT are physically separate units. And the VoIP terminal electronics and telephone jacks are built into the gateway.

Also there's no coax connection for a TV RF demodulator for linear channels anywhere since AT&T U-verse TV uses IPTV, not linear stacked QAM channels.

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[NashGuy]

Also there's no coax connection for a TV RF demodulator for linear channels anywhere since AT&T U-verse TV uses IPTV, not linear stacked QAM channels.

And, beyond that, they're not even installing Uverse TV any more. There for awhile this spring, after it disappeared from their website, you could still call in and order it. But my understanding now is that they'll only sell AT&T TV or DirecTV with new fiber installs (and they're mainly pushing AT&T TV).

 

[slice1900]

Yeah, that's essentially it. ....

They'll mount the slack-NID box either somewhere outside or inside the service entrance whereas the ONT must always be inside as it's not weatherproof. And the battery backup for the ONT is only given if you subscribe to AT&T's VoIP phone service as well.

Not sure why AT&T does things in such a backasswards fashion. Pretty much all other fiber providers combine the NID & ONT outside the house, and a cat5 cable running inside carrying ethernet.

Running fiber through the wall of your house makes the installs more difficult and time consuming both for them and the homeowner. I wonder who made that brain dead decision that was how they were going to do things? It makes no sense at all, I can't see a single possible advantage to doing it that way.

 

[HoTat2]

Not sure why AT&T does things in such a backasswards fashion. Pretty much all other fiber providers combine the NID & ONT outside the house, and a cat5 cable running inside carrying ethernet.

Running fiber through the wall of your house makes the installs more difficult and time consuming both for them and the homeowner. I wonder who made that brain dead decision that was how they were going to do things? It makes no sense at all, I can't see a single possible advantage to doing it that way.

IIRC, the scuttlebutt circulating on the AT&T forum a number of years ago was that AT&T wanted to go in a different direction on this. Where current hookup was to be only an interim topology, and to eventually integrate the ONT into the gateway itself.

So it would be fiber all the way to the gateway. ...

But I've yet to see any evidence of this or any other new gateway models available for that matter. Just the same old Arris BGW-210s or Pace 5268ACs ....

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[TheTechGuru]

AT&T will soon be issuing gateways with a fiber port so no more ONT.

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[Jimbo]

IIRC, the scuttlebutt circulating on the AT&T forum a number of years ago was that AT&T wanted to go in a different direction on this. Where current hookup was to be only an interim topology, and to eventually integrate the ONT into the gateway itself.

So it would be fiber all the way to the gateway. ...

But I've yet to see any evidence of this or any other new gateway models available for that matter. Just the same old Arris BGW-210s or Pace 5268ACs ....

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Running fiber to the gateway would be the way I would expect them to do it in the not too distance future, as thats the same thing they did with U Verse, it initially went to the side of the house and iw to a jk and to the modem .... then they eventually got rid of that when the modem/gateways did it all in one.

 

[Claude Greiner]

AT&T will soon be issuing gateways with a fiber port so no more ONT.

New XGS-PON ONT!!! BGW320-505 Unlikely for Residential Service - AT&T U-verse | DSLReports Forums

Forum discussion: So I managed to get my hands on an XGS-PON ONT (Manufacturer: Nokia Model: XS-020X-A) that AT&T is going to be using for future PON deployments. These are currently being installed in the Memphis, TN area right now even though no one is currently bei

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It’s about time.

I never liked the eithernet hand off into their modem.

My Netgear R9009 I believe will take fiber from the ISP.

AT&T should offer a tier faster than 1 gig just so they can say so.

 

[Jimbo]

It’s about time.

I never liked the eithernet hand off into their modem.

My Netgear R9009 I believe will take fiber from the ISP.

AT&T should offer a tier faster than 1 gig just so they can say so.

Why ?
So people can find something to complain about when they find that ATT isn't actually doing More than 1 gig ?

Do we really need to FIND things for people to complain about with att ?

 

[Claude Greiner]

Why ?
So people can find something to complain about when they find that ATT isn't actually doing More than 1 gig ?

Do we really need to FIND things for people to complain about with att ?

I don’t care about getting more than 1 gig, rather getting rid of their crappy modem.

Give me my full gig and not limit it to 940 which is the maximum that can be supported over eithernet.

I want hand off from the fiber Into my router.

 

[Jimbo]

I don’t care about getting more than 1 gig, rather getting rid of their crappy modem.

Give me my full gig and not limit it to 940 which is the maximum that can be supported over eithernet.

I want hand off from the fiber Into my router.

I suggest you build your own system from the office out and then you can have whatever speeds you want.

You bought the service KNOWING it isn't 1 gig, but you still bought it ...

 

[TheTechGuru]

I believe one will always have to use AT&T's modem/gateway due to the encryption they use on their fiber network. I have mine in passthough mode that assigns the public IP (4 and 6 BTW) to my router. I just don't like having to run their huge 3 amp heater just for that.