Will At&t upgrade Satellite service?

[Tampa8]

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/104459/road-to-fcc-30-order-could-be-bumpy

At&t has already hinted at streaming at some point being their main form of delivery. If forced will they invest in the changeover or phase out service?

 

[navychop]

Satellites are a bent pipe. But the equipment to get it there...

I suspect the real problem may be full 6 MHz carriage. Can't it be broken out into separate channels like ATSC 1? Obviously the TVs will do this. Just a ploy to get more out there. ATSC 3 will do nothing to save bandwidth for satcos.

 

[goaliebob99]

ATT doesn't want to get rid of the main satellite delivery platform as it's a premium delivery service that has a national footprint. They also do have additional satellites on order to replace some ageing ones that I would expect to see go up in the next 3-5 years. What I would expect is a streaming overlay of some type to complement the premium platform.

 

[Juan]

ATT doesn't want to get rid of the main satellite delivery platform as it's a premium delivery service. that has a national footprint They also do have additional satellites on order to replace some ageing ones that I would expect to see go up in the next 3-5 years. What I would expect is a streaming overlay of some type to complement the premium platform.

Orders can be cancelled

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[goaliebob99]

Not these kinds of orders, without significant penalty to both the service and licensees. You would be crazy to think that ATT would give up any type of license for spectrum. They want it all.

 

[navychop]

Bingo. And those sats can be used for other, commercial, purposes.

Remember those Ka sats weren't intended for video. But that change worked out rather nicely.

 

[rad]

Satellites on order, any more details since I hadn't heard of an pending.


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[goaliebob99]

Satellites on order, any more details since I hadn't heard of an pending.


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I didnt get many details either, it was on one of the Russian space websites that ATT had ordered T16 & T17 for the Directv platform.

 

[IcEWoLF]

Orders can be cancelled

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It would cost AT&T an arm and a leg to do that, these things are planned several years ahead, they hire all these contractors and nasa to build these rockets/ satellites to get up on the orbit, so canceling is not an option.
IPTV while it's the new thing these days it's at least a decade away from where it can really start challenging satellite/cable providers due to bandwidth issues. Remember a lot of people don't have the speeds or the bandwidth to stream.
I think IPTV is the future, only when IPV6 becomes main stream and starts replacing IPv4.

Satellite is not going anywhere anytime soon, you have to remember most of the world still uses satellites to get their channels, most of third world countries can only get tv from
Satellites since they don't have the means to build an infrastructure to build a broadband network outside major cities.

 

[Stephen Henson]

They may be going to be putting that new satellite at the 101 location

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[goaliebob99]

D4S would be the first canadate I could think of that would need to be replaced. With an all HD transition coming up in the next few years as mpeg 2 gets turned off on the 101, they may want to get an new bird up at the 101. That would give them at least 15 years plus updated techology on the satellite (more efficent) allowing them to do a mix of HD and 4K outside the plans for 4K on reverse band and HD currently on 103/99.

The other one could be going to 110 or 119. Both are coming to end of life soon.

 

[navychop]

Satellites are bent pipes. They don't care if the signal is MPEG-2, MPEG-4 or Morse code.

But as you said, there are plenty of other improvements- better power, better and more spot beams and CONUS beams, batteries and more fuel, to name a few.

I doubt ATT has much interest in 119. Main value seems to be to keep it from Dish's hands.

 

[rad]

I thought they were using 119 to provide a few HD channels to PR? They might want to hang onto it just for that.


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[mdram]

satellite reached more people than broadband

 

[raoul5788]

I thought they were using 119 to provide a few HD channels to PR? They might want to hang onto it just for that.


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About 40% of the dmas get local sd channels from 119. It's not going away any time soon unless Directv gets all of those customers on mpeg4 (hd) equipment. That is part of the long term plan, but we shall see.

 

[goaliebob99]

About 40% of the dmas get local sd channels from 119. It's not going away any time soon unless Directv gets all of those customers on mpeg4 (hd) equipment. That is part of the long term plan, but we shall see.

Satellites are bent pipes. They don't care if the signal is MPEG-2, MPEG-4 or Morse code.

But as you said, there are plenty of other improvements- better power, better and more spot beams and CONUS beams, batteries and more fuel, to name a few.

I doubt ATT has much interest in 119. Main value seems to be to keep it from Dish's hands.

Speculation, I think once the HD transition happens we will see Internationals move from the leased transponders on 95 over to 119 & 110. While yes satellites are bent pipes, the design of a transponder could prohibit certain signals if the transponder wasn't designed with enough bandwidth for them depending on modulation and fec rates among other things. You also have to keep in mind the uplink budget that was designed to take in accountability for atmospheric fade and degradation. While, I don't think that's the case here, it would certainly be addressed when the new bird is launched. Now would be the time to get all of that figured out.

The spaceways were a prime example of how a satellite was designed for one purpose (internet) but repurposed for video. Anytime you want to launch a new bird, it would be who of the designer to do a bit of overkill as it's hard to redesign a satellite when it's in a geostationary orbit.

 

[Jimbo]

Satellites are bent pipes. They don't care if the signal is MPEG-2, MPEG-4 or Morse code.

But as you said, there are plenty of other improvements- better power, better and more spot beams and CONUS beams, batteries and more fuel, to name a few.

I doubt ATT has much interest in 119. Main value seems to be to keep it from Dish's hands.

Didn't they quit using the 110 Sat awhile back ?

 

[Juan]

About 40% of the dmas get local sd channels from 119. It's not going away any time soon unless Directv gets all of those customers on mpeg4 (hd) equipment. That is part of the long term plan, but we shall see.

What if the locals themselves go away?
The FCC is slowly selling their frequencies off

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[navychop]

I understand the comment regarding uplinks.

It is my understanding that Dish satellites (transponders) can handle SD or HD equally, with the numbers of each kind varying. UHD may take some finesse, but that will probably be worked out (new technology receivers), avoiding bonding two transponders. I can only assume DirecTV satellites can do the same.

 

[raoul5788]

What if the locals themselves go away?
The FCC is slowly selling their frequencies off

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Really, you think local channels are going away?