Windows 8 OS,Tablet, New Win 8 PCs News Thread

[meStevo]

CNET discussing fears about MS ushering in the end of the Desktop: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57576474-75/with-windows-blue-comes-fear-of-desktops-demise/

What would it take for you to (comfortably) move on from the desktop? What would W8 or W9 need to do? I have a hard time imagining it. It's pretty simple usage at this point, really just a handful of files/shortcuts I suppose. I love me some change but this is a tough one to imagine. Even on my Mac my desktop ends up just being a collection of random files that I didn't put explicitly in the Downloads or Documents folders... and a bunch of screenshots. I use Alfred/Spotlight for everything. At home on my desktop I use the Windows 8 search to launch almost everything. Even on my tablet, the Start menu is less OCD'd than my desktop, as I only use it for specific things. I'm not sure I even want my desktop and tablet start screens to sync, would probably spend some time to re-organize it/them then to tailor it to both uses.

Interesting times.

 

[John Kotches]

I think the desktop era is going to wither away on its own over the next few years. Most everyday uses will be handled on our phones / tablets.

There will still be a market for desktop computing, but it will be a much smaller market.

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[Poke]

I think the desktop era is going to wither away on its own over the next few years. Most everyday uses will be handled on our phones / tablets.

There will still be a market for desktop computing, but it will be a much smaller market.

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Yeah I agree. I can see more and more Apps being done to where you don't have to use the desktop as much anymore except for a few high end programs.

 

[nelson61]

The brother-in-law is on the road steady and has bought every operating system, and probably half the models in every system. He is a user (not an administrator) and one of those that calls corporate IT in the middle of the night if he does not get service since he lives and dies by data access. He has continually been searching for the Holy Grail and has told me that all past efforts always have ended in failure with compatibility issues or features on one system not available on another. His latest efforts have been using Microsoft powered tablets (on his third one now). He tells me that they have broken the barrier and he finally is getting the interaction and data access he wants with his customers and his various corporate databases. Said he needed one of the latest and most powerful tablets to do the job and is finally happy. So those that say Microsoft will fail should wait a couple more years before they put up the tombstone.

 

[Poke]

Be interesting to see how good they are the Samsung Ativ Pro's are nice.

HTC To Bring A Windows 8 Tablet This Year

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/02/htc-windows-8-tablet

 

[John Kotches]

nelson:

Fail is probably too strong a term, even though I've used similar wording. I believe their dominance in the IT world is going to diminish significantly. This is true in both the personal and business computing space.

 

[Poke]

Yeah Microsoft got allot of new things planed and new products just released as well so I see them getting stronger over the next year or so. Plus there are many things that they do in the background that many companies already use that most are not aware of. Most of the tech sites only concentrate on certain areas that don't realize what really goes on behind the scenes. So Microsoft not going any where and it will be interesting too see how they combine everything with Windows Phones and PC, Tablet side as well. My guess is things will come more to full circle to wards the end of 2014 and afterwards.

 

[John Kotches]

Poke:

Market evidence runs contrary to your beliefs.



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[nelson61]

nelson:

Fail is probably too strong a term, even though I've used similar wording. I believe their dominance in the IT world is going to diminish significantly. This is true in both the personal and business computing space.

Gates said years ago that someone(s) was going to eat Microsoft's lunch. Said it first would get fat and complacent. Only question was when.

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[Poke]

Poke:

Market evidence runs contrary to your beliefs.

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Market not always correct so numbers can be very misleading like the market said about FB before they went public look how that went ask Mark about what the market said with that. Market knows no more on how things will turn out that the other guy the only ones that have some what of a idea are the ones they work in the field and the ones that make the final decisions and even then it does on always turn out the way they thought. But either way like I have said it's way to early to say how things will. So between now and first part of 2015 will say a lot by then I think we will have a better feel of things.

 

[Poke]

Intel reportedly shipping Haswell chip to PC OEMs

http://www.neowin.net/news/intel-reportedly-shipping-haswell-chip-to-pc-oems

 

[John Kotches]

Poke:

The market is the first indicator.

MS has a lot of eggs in the win 8 basket. In an era where upgrade cycles and new sales in the bread and butter market are showing signs of decline they aren't offering anything compelling enough to change the trend.

Next indicator will be the ousting of Ballmer and a new person at the helm.



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[Poke]

Poke:

The market is the first indicator.

MS has a lot of eggs in the win 8 basket. In an era where upgrade cycles and new sales in the bread and butter market are showing signs of decline they aren't offering anything compelling enough to change the trend.

Next indicator will be the ousting of Ballmer and a new person at the helm.



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Well right now to hard for anyone to say but I think we will know more by the end of the year and next year as there will be a lot more products coming out. So overall not too worried like some of the competition is due to they know there more to come but yes I agree Ballmer is not the best person to have at the helm so if they get someone else that will probably be a good thing.

 

[Poke]

Samsung leaks the ATIV Book 6: a regular Windows 8 notebook possibly headed to the US for $1,200

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/samsung-ativ-book-6-listing/

 

[John Kotches]

Worst PC Sales Drop in History.

How about a 13+% sales decline year to year? That's what CNN/Money are reporting.

Poke says it's too soon to tell. I say with two consecutive bad quarters it doesn't look good. I see say a confluence of events... pressure from below with quality tablets, consumer ambivalence for Windows 8 and a weak economy are causing this.

Windows 8 has the worst adoption rate in history as well.

Not what I would consider to be rosy news.

 

[harshness]

Two respected survey organizations suggest that Windows 8 is driving computer users to other platforms:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57578914-92/pcs-hit-by-an-ugly-quarterly-drop-as-windows-8-flops/

HP shipments were down 24% year-to-year.

I have to say that I really don't much care for computers as a hobby anymore. If I want something that is going to break down a lot and cost a wad of money to keep up, I'll get a another sports car.

 

[Poke]

How about a 13+% sales decline year to year? That's what CNN/Money are reporting.

Poke says it's too soon to tell. I say with two consecutive bad quarters it doesn't look good. I see say a confluence of events... pressure from below with quality tablets, consumer ambivalence for Windows 8 and a weak economy are causing this.

Windows 8 has the worst adoption rate in history as well.

Not what I would consider to be rosy news.

Like I have said we will see right now yes I would agree that things are slow but I think over the next couple of months that will change.

 

[John Kotches]

Like I have said we will see right now yes I would agree that things are slow but I think over the next couple of months that will change.

Based on what? Blue? That's more of the same that consumers and corporations aren't clamoring for.

 

[harshness]

Like I have said we will see right now yes I would agree that things are slow but I think over the next couple of months that will change.

Unless Microsoft promises to reverse most of the things that make Windows 8 different from Windows 7 and defeating the whole purpose, there's not a very high likelihood that the current will change. Home purchases won't happen until school starts back up in the Fall. Business adoption seems non-existent outside of customers that were purchased (i.e. DoD).

I anticipate an uphill battle with the ideas that Microsoft knows what the market wants and that they are well positioned to deliver it. I say that they've wiffed mightily on both counts.

 

[nelson61]

It's not complicated. A huge percentage of users do not need a full function computer. A web browser and email is all many need. The new cheap tablets do that and are easy to carry around.

So, laptop, netbooks of all op systems are going to crash back to a sales level that matches the true need of powerful data manipulating machine ( a limited subset of business and home users).

Just another tech upheavel that occurs every 10 years or so.

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