DirecTV 11 Satellite - Tracking & Testing

[texasbrit]

103s is Spaceway 1 , 103c is D10

No, that's not true. The 103c screen (103b on the receivers) has all the CONUS transponders from DirecTV10. 103s (103a on the receivers) has all the spotbeam transponders from BOTH Spaceway 1 and DirecTV10.

The numbering at 99 will be similar. 99(s) on the DVRs - it's 99(b) on the receivers - has all the spotbeams from both satellites at 99. 99(c) - 99(a) on the receivers - has the CONUS beams from DirecTV11.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

That interesting, That means None of the Transponders on 103c are spotbeams? How can they combind all the spotbeams to make it look like they are on 1 satellite.? Software I guess? This makes it even more difficult to know where our HD and Locals are even coming from. How can we tell what Transponder Carrys what channel.\?

 

[rad]

How can we tell what Transponder Carrys what channel.\?

Yea can't

It was put into the HR2X sugguestion thread over at DBStalk many months ago to have the box show what the current sat/transponder the current channel was tuned to but they've never implemented it. Guess D* just wants to keep that info close to the vest.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Yea can't

It was put into the HR2X sugguestion thread over at DBStalk many months ago to have the box show what the current sat/transponder the current channel was tuned to but they've never implemented it. Guess D* just wants to keep that info close to the vest.

That stinks

 

[texasbrit]

That interesting, That means None of the Transponders on 103c are spotbeams? How can they combind all the spotbeams to make it look like they are on 1 satellite.? Software I guess? This makes it even more difficult to know where our HD and Locals are even coming from. How can we tell what Transponder Carrys what channel.\?

It's done by the software in the DVRs/receivers. DirecTV decided it was better to have all the spotbeams on one screen rather than to have a display by actual satellite.
You know that if it is a CONUS HD channel then it's coming from DirecTV10 or (soon) DirecTV11 and is from one of the transponders on the 103b/c screen or the 99c/a screen. If it's an HD local then all you know is that the transponder will be on the 103s/a or 99s/b screens. On the spotbeams in particular DirecTV moves cities between the transponders/satellites as it brings new cities on board. The Denver DMA even used different satellites for coverage of the northern and southern parts of the DMA. When DirecTV11 starts transmitting on its spotbeams, as well as new HD locals there will probably be another set of moves, since DirecTV has four satellites capable of transmitting HD locals (Spaceways 1 and 2, DirecTV10 and 11) and will be looking for optimum use of the available bandwidth.

Just to complicate things further, DirecTV10 (and we assume DirecTV11 also) also transmits SD locals via spotbeams to some DMAs. Those SD locals come from a transponder on the 103s/a screen.

 

[harshness]

This is false! NC locals are not Mpeg 4.Local channels - North Carolina - LyngSat

Not that Lyngsat is the final word, but are you talking SD LIL or HD LIL?

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Not that Lyngsat is the final word, but are you talking SD LIL or HD LIL?

Yea ,we cleared that up last night. Thanks though!

 

[dddeeds]

Well the guide now shows that BTN 220 HD is moving to Ch# 610 @ 6AM Wed. July 30th...so definately something will be going on then I'd assume.

 

[dddeeds]

oops old news sorry

 

[HD#1]

well to those of who saw the test channel of ESPN was the pq much better than on channel 206?

 

[jcrandall]

I'm not sure what to make out of the ESPN sighting in the 9000's. The fact that it said Test leads me to believe that is may be an MPEG4 feed, but does not mean it was on D11.

Early this week on Monday, before the satellite was given to D* from Boeing, Jimbo and I found a feed of FSN Detroit on 9951.

It was obtained by letting gamesearch find a feed when tuning to the alternate team broadcast of a game that was on our RSN. We tuned to the Royals feed when we are in the Tigers market, it is blackedout, as it should be, and it "found the game" on 9951.

The channel label was DTV, not TEST.

I think D* may maintain sports feeds up in the 9000's, many of which may be virtual channels, others a normal link for stations that only get used for MLB/NHL/NBA/etc packages, such as the Canadian feeds or SD4 (Padres), etc.

I'm not sure what to make of it, but want to mention it given the excitement behind spotting ESPN there. I think D* uses the 9000 range on a regular basis.

 

[atp1313]

Well the guide now shows that BTN 220 HD is moving to Ch# 610 @ 6AM Wed. July 30th...so definately something will be going on then I'd assume.

Yep that's all part of the channel realignment that started earlier this month and will continue for several more weeks/months. It is unrelated (directly) to any activity on D11.

 

[DodgerKing]

I'm not sure what to make out of the ESPN sighting in the 9000's. The fact that it said Test leads me to believe that is may be an MPEG4 feed, but does not mean it was on D11.

Early this week on Monday, before the satellite was given to D* from Boeing, Jimbo and I found a feed of FSN Detroit on 9951.

It was obtained by letting gamesearch find a feed when tuning to the alternate team broadcast of a game that was on our RSN. We tuned to the Royals feed when we are in the Tigers market, it is blackedout, as it should be, and it "found the game" on 9951.

The channel label was DTV, not TEST.

I think D* may maintain sports feeds up in the 9000's, many of which may be virtual channels, others a normal link for stations that only get used for MLB/NHL/NBA/etc packages, such as the Canadian feeds or SD4 (Padres), etc.

I'm not sure what to make of it, but want to mention it given the excitement behind spotting ESPN there. I think D* uses the 9000 range on a regular basis.

P Smith has already confirmed it was from D11

 

[jcrandall]

P Smith has already confirmed it was from D11

I don't understand how he verified this, here is what he wrote:

Between 1pm and 8pm yesterday, some 0f 9xxx 'channels' appear on new net#10 (D11). I didn't check my logs last two days.


So, the list of channels assigned to D11:
9320 9315 9323 9325 9333 9338 9339 9342 9344 9347 9348 9349 9350 9353 9354 9357 9358 9359 9360 9366 9369 9374 9376 9314 9318 9319

So, if assume those 26 channels are full of video, then 26/14 = 2 channels per transponder. Should be high quality video if the bandwidth ~20 Mbps for each.

He examines the guide information and it has "new net#10" referring to D11?

That doesn't provide any way to infer that they will run 2 channels per transponder - that would be foolish. IIRC they run 5 now on D10?

Too many gaps here - I still think it's hard to determine what was saw on that ESPN feed.

 

[Smith P.]

Take a look at APG records in stream, perhaps you'll find other links to tpn numbers from each channel's record; I don't have full knowledge for parsing all that APG objects.

 

[darrencp22]

Take a look at APG records in stream, perhaps you'll find other links to tpn numbers from each channel's record; I don't have full knowledge for parsing all that APG objects.

We appreciate the work you do. But you have to understand what you just said sounds like this to us:


Blah blah blah... more blah, blah blah.... It sounds like this to me AND I have a technical background.

You have to know you're speaking above our heads, right? Thanks anyways though. Your contributions would be even more valuable if you could translate into language that means something to the avg user.

 

[cummingsje]

We appreciate the work you do. But you have to understand what you just said sounds like this to us:


Blah blah blah... more blah, blah blah.... It sounds like this to me AND I have a technically background.

You have to know you're speaking above our heads, right? Thanks anyways though. Your contributions would be even more valuable if you could translate into langauge that means something to the avg user.

Amen! My sentiments exactly. I enjoy his postings but some are technically WAYYYYYYY above my head!

 

[digiblur]

APG is the Advanced Programming Guide that is the mapping your receiver uses to determine which satellite, transponder, and video stream/audio stream is at. Unfortunately it isn't a standard DVB table like DishNetwork uses so you'll find little to no documentation out on the web on the layout of the stream. Find that out and you'll have a daily DirecTV uplink report.

 

[jcrandall]

Take a look at APG records in stream, perhaps you'll find other links to tpn numbers from each channel's record; I don't have full knowledge for parsing all that APG objects.

P - I'm not trying to bash you, and I have no doubt that you know more about their stream than I do.

I am just saying I don't understand how you arrived at it coming from D11.

 

[Smith P.]

I didn't try to harm your reputation at all - it was a proposal to get your hands 'dirty' and find more then I got. I think ppl interesting in the kind of info, judging by Dish uplink posts.